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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Bishopcolle

The case book 10.3.4 comment does NOT mention "during a try or shot." It says, "A player who strikes either backboard so forcefully it cannot be ignored because it is an attempt to draw attention to the player, or a means of venting frustration, may be assessed a technical foul pursuant to Rule 10-3-6. What say you?

The case play does mention a try or shot, "A1 tries for a goal", as does 10-3-4-B, and not only that, the rule also states that the ball must be in flight. It's not in flight in the original post, so a technical foul can't be assessed under 10-3-4-B:

NFHS 10-3-4 A player shall not: Illegally contact the backboard/ring by:
b. Intentionally slapping or striking the backboard or causing the ring to
vibrate while a try or tap is in flight or is touching the backboard or is in the
basket or in the cylinder above the basket.

10.3.4 SITUATION: A1 tries for a goal, and (a) B1 jumps and attempts to block the shot but instead slaps or strikes the backboard and the ball goes into the basket; or (b) B1 vibrates the ring as a result of pulling on the net and the ball does not enter the basket. RULING: In (a) legal and the basket counts; and (b) a technical foul is charged to B1 and there is no basket. COMMENT: The purpose of the rule is to penalize intentional contact with the backboard while a shot or try is involved or placing a hand on the backboard to gain an advantage. A player who strikes either backboard so forcefully it cannot be ignored because it is an attempt to draw attention to the player, or a means of venting frustration may be assessed a technical foul pursuant to Rule 10-3-6.

NFHS 10-3-6 A player shall not: Commit an unsporting foul.

So if the act is deemed to be unsporting, good call.

[Bishopcolle]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

The case play does mention a try or shot, "A1 tries for a goal", as does 10-3-4-B, and not only that, the rule also states that the ball must be in flight. It's not in flight in the original post, so a technical foul can't be assessed under 10-3-4-B:

NFHS 10-3-4 A player shall not: Illegally contact the backboard/ring by:
b. Intentionally slapping or striking the backboard or causing the ring to
vibrate while a try or tap is in flight or is touching the backboard or is in the
basket or in the cylinder above the basket.

10.3.4 SITUATION: A1 tries for a goal, and (a) B1 jumps and attempts to block the shot but instead slaps or strikes the backboard and the ball goes into the basket; or (b) B1 vibrates the ring as a result of pulling on the net and the ball does not enter the basket. RULING: In (a) legal and the basket counts; and (b) a technical foul is charged to B1 and there is no basket. COMMENT: The purpose of the rule is to penalize intentional contact with the backboard while a shot or try is involved or placing a hand on the backboard to gain an advantage. A player who strikes either backboard so forcefully it cannot be ignored because it is an attempt to draw attention to the player, or a means of venting frustration may be assessed a technical foul pursuant to Rule 10-3-6.

NFHS 10-3-6 A player shall not: Commit an unsporting foul.

So if the act is deemed to be unsporting, good call.

BillyMac: I agree with all of your comments, except your original comment that the technical can ONLY be assessed if the slap is during a try....Contradicting you, the #4 in the POEs this year mentions that the slap, if made during an attempt to block a shot, "should not be penalized." (page 69) Continuing, "The spirit and intent of that rule is to penalize a player for drawing attention to himself or as a means of venting frustration."

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Bishopcolle

I agree with all of your comments, except your original comment that the technical can ONLY be assessed if the slap is during a try....Contradicting you, the #4 in the POEs this year mentions that the slap, if made during an attempt to block a shot, "should not be penalized." Continuing, "The spirit and intent of that rule is to penalize a player for drawing attention to himself or as a means of venting frustration."

I think we agree. If the backboard is slapped, and it's not during a tap or try (or is touching the backboard or is in the basket or in the cylinder above the basket), then the official could only penalize the slapping with a technical foul under NFHS 10-3-6 (unsporting), not under NFHS 10-3-4 (slapping backboard).

[Bishopcolle]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I think we agree. If the backboard is slapped, and it's not during a tap or try (or is touching the backboard or is in the basket or in the cylinder above the basket), then the official could only penalize the slapping with a technical foul under NFHS 10-3-6 (unsporting), not under NFHS 10-3-4 (slapping backboard).

10-4...I agree....thanks for all of your input....