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refnrev Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:06pm

He beat me by half a second
 
Boys V game last night. Small loud gym. Two very fast run and gun teams. Home is a great 3 point shooting team. As 2nd quarter is winding down home misses shot and visitors get the rebound. He puts up a 3 from way inside the division line with 1.5 seconds left. I'm opposite the table so I give the preliminary signal. Swish. All net! I signal the 3 and basket good. Gym goes crazy. Home is up by about 10 at half but visitors battle back and tie it late in the 4th. Under a minute and visitors are down by 2. I'm C and watching my area very closely. V's big man posts up and drives for the shot. Misses the shot but pulls down his own rebound in paint. Stands there. I count 1-2-3- he starts to move. If he's going to put it up I've got nothing. He pulls the ball back, pivots, and starts looking to pass. 4-5... I inhale and start to swing my arm to signal 3 seconds when I hear T's whistle and see him signal 3 seconds and point. Gym goes wild. He beat me on the call by 1/2 a second. It was the only 3 second call of the night. Fans in first row are three feet from me and think I made the call. I get a hearty "Great call, Stripes!" Home gets fouled twice and ends up winning by 4. Good kids, good play, good sportsmanship on benches. Really fun night.:)

grunewar Thu Jan 22, 2009 06:09am

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Originally Posted by refnrev (Post 571001)
Good kids, good play, good sportsmanship on benches. Really fun night.:)

We should all be so lucky. Good for you! :)

mbyron Thu Jan 22, 2009 06:55am

And then the alarm clock went off... ;)

slow whistle Thu Jan 22, 2009 08:34am

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Originally Posted by refnrev (Post 571001)
He beat me on the call by 1/2 a second.

Partner may have beat you by 1/2 a second, but I bet the whole crowd and opposing coach beat you by at least 4 seconds on that call:D

JugglingReferee Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:03am

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Originally Posted by slow whistle (Post 571058)
Partner may have beat you by 1/2 a second, but I bet the whole crowd and opposing coach beat you by at least 4 seconds on that call:D

I see that both you and your partner have a "slow whistle." :p

wbrown Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:07am

Tough crowd
 
The crowd here is tougher than the crowd you had. :)

fullor30 Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:13am

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Originally Posted by refnrev (Post 571001)
Boys V game last night. Small loud gym. Two very fast run and gun teams. Home is a great 3 point shooting team. As 2nd quarter is winding down home misses shot and visitors get the rebound. He puts up a 3 from way inside the division line with 1.5 seconds left. I'm opposite the table so I give the preliminary signal. Swish. All net! I signal the 3 and basket good. Gym goes crazy. Home is up by about 10 at half but visitors battle back and tie it late in the 4th. Under a minute and visitors are down by 2. I'm C and watching my area very closely. V's big man posts up and drives for the shot. Misses the shot but pulls down his own rebound in paint. Stands there. I count 1-2-3- he starts to move. If he's going to put it up I've got nothing. He pulls the ball back, pivots, and starts looking to pass. 4-5... I inhale and start to swing my arm to signal 3 seconds when I hear T's whistle and see him signal 3 seconds and point. Gym goes wild. He beat me on the call by 1/2 a second. It was the only 3 second call of the night. Fans in first row are three feet from me and think I made the call. I get a hearty "Great call, Stripes!" Home gets fouled twice and ends up winning by 4. Good kids, good play, good sportsmanship on benches. Really fun night.:)

Isn't it signal basket good, then signal a 3 pointer? I'd bang it home, then raise arms.

Indianaref Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:17am

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Originally Posted by refnrev (Post 571001)
Boys V game last night. Small loud gym. Two very fast run and gun teams. Home is a great 3 point shooting team. As 2nd quarter is winding down home misses shot and visitors get the rebound. He puts up a 3 from way inside the division line with 1.5 seconds left. I'm opposite the table so I give the preliminary signal. Swish. All net! I signal the 3 and basket good. Gym goes crazy. Home is up by about 10 at half but visitors battle back and tie it late in the 4th. Under a minute and visitors are down by 2. I'm C and watching my area very closely. V's big man posts up and drives for the shot. Misses the shot but pulls down his own rebound in paint. Stands there. I count 1-2-3- he starts to move. If he's going to put it up I've got nothing. He pulls the ball back, pivots, and starts looking to pass. 4-5... I inhale and start to swing my arm to signal 3 seconds when I hear T's whistle and see him signal 3 seconds and point. Gym goes wild. He beat me on the call by 1/2 a second. It was the only 3 second call of the night. Fans in first row are three feet from me and think I made the call. I get a hearty "Great call, Stripes!" Home gets fouled twice and ends up winning by 4. Good kids, good play, good sportsmanship on benches. Really fun night.:)

You better knock on wood! Your next game may have 50 fouls and resemble a car wash.

slow whistle Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:23am

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Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 571122)
Isn't it signal basket good, then signal a 3 pointer? I'd bang it home, then raise arms.

Agreed...you have the attempt, then you go to the fist for the foul, then go back to signal the three and then score the goal? Seems like you would first score the goal, then come back up with the three point signal...granted this pushes nitpicky to a new level...

SmokeEater Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:27am

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Originally Posted by slow whistle (Post 571166)
Agreed...you have the attempt, then you go to the fist for the foul, then go back to signal the three and then score the goal? Seems like you would first score the goal, then come back up with the three point signal...granted this pushes nitpicky to a new level...

Would it not be sufficient to signal the successful 3 point goal by normal mechanics. Just raise both hands in the air, then go to fist and indicate you also have the foul. Just thinking out loud here.

fullor30 Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:31am

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Originally Posted by slow whistle (Post 571166)
Agreed...you have the attempt, then you go to the fist for the foul, then go back to signal the three and then score the goal? Seems like you would first score the goal, then come back up with the three point signal...granted this pushes nitpicky to a new level...


Where was a foul mentioned??

slow whistle Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:40am

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Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 571173)
Where was a foul mentioned??

My mistake, I didn't go back and re-read the original email, by "bang it home" I assumed you meant bang home the bucket on a foul rather than banging home the shot at the buzzer....same difference though meaning I would do the same, score it then indicate three...this is probably more preference than anything, don't know if there is a "correct" mechanic here...

slow whistle Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:46am

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Originally Posted by SmokeEater (Post 571170)
Would it not be sufficient to signal the successful 3 point goal by normal mechanics. Just raise both hands in the air, then go to fist and indicate you also have the foul. Just thinking out loud here.

Now that I have taken the conversation in a completely different direction:o Going the sequence you have indicated just seems awkward to me. If I have a foul it is instinctual to me to go to a fist right away on the whistle...to go from signaling a 3-pt attempt, blow whistle, signal successful attempt, then go to fist and score the goal...just would be be difficult for me to separate the whistle from the foul signal...that said I don't know if there is a "correct" sequence here, if you do whatever is comfortable I don't think you're going to have a problem...

Spence Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:36pm

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Originally Posted by refnrev (Post 571001)
Under a minute and visitors are down by 2. I'm C and watching my area very closely. V's big man posts up and drives for the shot. Misses the shot but pulls down his own rebound in paint. Stands there. I count 1-2-3- he starts to move. If he's going to put it up I've got nothing. He pulls the ball back, pivots, and starts looking to pass. 4-5... :)

Are you saying that after he pivoted that you counted 4,5,..?

GoodwillRef Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:54pm

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Originally Posted by refnrev (Post 571001)
Boys V game last night. Small loud gym. Two very fast run and gun teams. Home is a great 3 point shooting team. As 2nd quarter is winding down home misses shot and visitors get the rebound. He puts up a 3 from way inside the division line with 1.5 seconds left. I'm opposite the table so I give the preliminary signal. Swish. All net! I signal the 3 and basket good. Gym goes crazy. Home is up by about 10 at half but visitors battle back and tie it late in the 4th. Under a minute and visitors are down by 2. I'm C and watching my area very closely. V's big man posts up and drives for the shot. Misses the shot but pulls down his own rebound in paint. Stands there. I count 1-2-3- he starts to move. If he's going to put it up I've got nothing. He pulls the ball back, pivots, and starts looking to pass. 4-5... I inhale and start to swing my arm to signal 3 seconds when I hear T's whistle and see him signal 3 seconds and point. Gym goes wild. He beat me on the call by 1/2 a second. It was the only 3 second call of the night. Fans in first row are three feet from me and think I made the call. I get a hearty "Great call, Stripes!" Home gets fouled twice and ends up winning by 4. Good kids, good play, good sportsmanship on benches. Really fun night.:)


The post player was in the lane for 3 seconds with the ball then starts his move as soon as he pulls the ball back I am going to have a 3 second call. He was in the lane for what 6-7-8 seconds? It seems like you stopped counting on his move and then starting to count again when he picked up the ball. This is why we have the 3 second rule...this was a no brainer, but probably 3-4 seconds before you thought about it and your partner got it.


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