While I have your attention

[Camron Rust]

The ONLY time I could imagine calling a multiple foul is if both/all fouls were intentional (excessive contact variety) or flagrant. I simply would not let such a foul go just because it would be part of a mulitple.

[ga314ref]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

The ONLY time I could imagine calling a multiple foul is if both/all fouls were intentional (excessive contact variety) or flagrant. I simply would not let such a foul go just because it would be part of a mulitple.

...where anyone would try to call that. It's still going to be painful though, and I wouldn't want to be there.

[wbrown]

Just to put everyone at ease, I have never called a multiple foul nor do I ever foresee the opportunity. It was just one of those things that when you read it you say, I wonder if anyone has ever called it. Especially the one where it is a non shooting foul and you award two shots. I would love to hear the coach/referee dialogue.

Had a 3-whistle multiple foul once in a deaf tournament. It was late in the game, and the team trailing actually had 3 players commit fouls at the same time, on 3 different offensive players. All 3 of us blew our whistles, and found ourselves with three different numbers. I told my partners (who didn't know any sign language) to go ahead and report theirs, and then I would report mine last, because I knew the losing coach was going to blow his stack. Sure enough, when I reported the third number, the coach went ballastic on me, hightailing into my direction to give me the what-for, and I added a T to the nice little mess. I turned around to get with the partners on administration of the three multiple fouls and the T, when there was a commotion that distracted one of my partners and caused him to assess the losing coach his second T and an ejection. What a mess.

The next year when I worked the tournament, in a different city with different partners, that same coach made a line about me hating his team, and I didn't catch it, but so many of the fans told me afterwards. Some people just don't get it.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch

Had a 3-whistle multiple foul once in a deaf tournament. It was late in the game, and the team trailing actually had 3 players commit fouls at the same time, on 3 different offensive players. All 3 of us blew our whistles, and found ourselves with three different numbers. I told my partners (who didn't know any sign language) to go ahead and report theirs, and then I would report mine last, because I knew the losing coach was going to blow his stack. Sure enough, when I reported the third number, the coach went ballastic on me, hightailing into my direction to give me the what-for, and I added a T to the nice little mess. I turned around to get with the partners on administration of the three multiple fouls and the T, when there was a commotion that distracted one of my partners and caused him to assess the losing coach his second T and an ejection. What a mess.

The next year when I worked the tournament, in a different city with different partners, that same coach made a line about me hating his team, and I didn't catch it, but so many of the fans told me afterwards. Some people just don't get it.

First of all, you're talking about simultaneous fouls, not multiple fouls.

Secondly, I have the same philosophy about simultaneous fouls as I do multiple fouls - one of them happened first. Get together, figure out which one it was, ignore the other(s) unless it's intentional or flagrant.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

First of all, you're talking about simultaneous fouls, not multiple fouls.

No -- simultaneous fouls are committed by opponents.

He might be referring to "false multiple" foul, but I agree that in this instance, one occurred first and the others should be ignored unless I or F.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

No -- simultaneous fouls are committed by opponents.

As usual you are correct. Now that I've got my book open, there isn't a definition that fits two or more fouls at the same time by the same team against different opponents. I suppose false multiple may fit, but it would normally be a foul during subsequent live ball but before the clock has started.

Nevertheless, I can't imagine when, outside of actions that are intentional/flagrant, it would ever fit to report the fouls as described.