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PIAA REF Mon Jan 12, 2009 01:23pm

Should I Switch?
 
I was looking at my schedule for this week and not sure how I missed this and not sure that it matters but tonight I have a girls varsity game. Tommorrow a boys varsity game with the same 2 teams playing in both games. Should I have asked for a switch off of one of the games. We only have on varsity assignor who assigns both girls and boys and usually he doesn't do this but sometimes it does happen. He doesn't care. I just don't like having both the girls and boys on back to back nights. What do you all think.
Thanks for you input.

PS.
Tommorrow's Boys game will be a great game!

Lcubed48 Mon Jan 12, 2009 01:30pm

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Originally Posted by PIAA REF (Post 567670)
I was looking at my schedule for this week and not sure how I missed this and not sure that it matters but tonight I have a girls varsity game. Tommorrow a boys varsity game with the same 2 teams playing in both games. Should I have asked for a switch off of one of the games. We only have on varsity assignor who assigns both girls and boys and usually he doesn't do this but sometimes it does happen. He doesn't care. I just don't like having both the girls and boys on back to back nights. What do you all think.
Thanks for you input.

PS.
Tommorrow's Boys game will be a great game!

Have two great games!!

JugglingReferee Mon Jan 12, 2009 01:34pm

Do 'em both!

ma_ref Mon Jan 12, 2009 01:34pm

Not sure how it'd impact my decision, but are the 2 games at the same school? Or is it 1 game at School A and the other at School B?

Rich Mon Jan 12, 2009 01:37pm

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Originally Posted by PIAA REF (Post 567670)
I was looking at my schedule for this week and not sure how I missed this and not sure that it matters but tonight I have a girls varsity game. Tommorrow a boys varsity game with the same 2 teams playing in both games. Should I have asked for a switch off of one of the games. We only have on varsity assignor who assigns both girls and boys and usually he doesn't do this but sometimes it does happen. He doesn't care. I just don't like having both the girls and boys on back to back nights. What do you all think.
Thanks for you input.

PS.
Tommorrow's Boys game will be a great game!

Boys one night, girls the next -- will anyone even notice? I wouldn't even blink at doing this.

JugglingReferee Mon Jan 12, 2009 01:40pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 567678)
Boys one night, girls the next -- will anyone even notice? I wouldn't even blink at doing this.

The way I read your statement, Rich, is that you would not do these assignments - but just one?

slow whistle Mon Jan 12, 2009 01:41pm

Maybe slightly off topic, but anybody ever run into the situation where you show up early for the varsity game, only to find that there is one official about to start the soph game? Do you jump in or no? The only reason I ask is that I have done this on two occassions and on both occassions I am positive that I got more grief from the varsity coaches during their games b/c they assumed I was a "Soph" official filling in for one of the varsity officials who did not show - which incidentally has also happened where we picked up a soph official to do the varsity game and it has been a good experience -the fact that someone is working a soph game does not on it's own make them a lesser official for a variety of reasons...but I digress...so do you make it a point to tell the coaches that you are filling in and that you are really there for the varsity game?

Rich Mon Jan 12, 2009 01:42pm

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 567681)
The way I read your statement, Rich, is that you would not do these assignments - but just one?

I wouldn't blink at working both -- I'd work both.

Me fail English? That's unpossible!

asdf Mon Jan 12, 2009 01:51pm

Not only should you work both games, you should be the R both games !!

Ch1town Mon Jan 12, 2009 01:51pm

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Originally Posted by slow whistle (Post 567682)
anybody ever run into the situation where you show up early for the varsity game, only to find that there is one official about to start the soph game? Do you jump in or no??

Yes & around here YES!

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Originally Posted by slow whistle (Post 567682)
I am positive that I got more grief from the varsity coaches during their games b/c they assumed I was a "Soph" official

Who cares?? Let your game management & presense on the court speak for itself...

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Originally Posted by slow whistle (Post 567682)
so do you make it a point to tell the coaches that you are filling in and that you are really there for the varsity game?

No. As mentioned above, let your game speak for itself.

I've meet quite a few officials that were discovered & unltimately hired into NJCAA conferences by working girls Saturday morning freshman games.

One never knows who is watching!

Adam Mon Jan 12, 2009 01:54pm

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Originally Posted by slow whistle (Post 567682)
so do you make it a point to tell the coaches that you are filling in and that you are really there for the varsity game?

Just to add to what Ch1town said, I would never do this because it would feel like I was big-timing the teams. It would be almost like I said, "Coach, knock it off, I was slumming earlier."

ma_ref Mon Jan 12, 2009 01:58pm

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Originally Posted by slow whistle (Post 567682)
anybody ever run into the situation where you show up early for the varsity game, only to find that there is one official about to start the soph game? Do you jump in or no?

Always jump in. No question.

I had the exact situation come up that you described. I got to my V game early. JV had 1 official. I ran into the locker room, got changed, and jumped onto the court with about 8 or 9 minutes left in the first half. Visiting coach was riding me most of the game, thinking I was the other JV official and simply showed up late. Then, the head coach during the V game (same school), gave me grief, thinking 1 of the V guys didn't show, so they stuck me (a "JV" official) in. However, I took a little pleasure in knowing that my assignor had given the coaches an earful a few days later when he found out how I was treated, and explained that I was actually doing them a favor by filling in...

bigdogrunnin Mon Jan 12, 2009 02:12pm

Work the games. Earlier this season I worked a BV at one site (School A vs. School B). Got in my truck after the game, drove 30 minutes down the road and worked a GV game with School B having just finished their BV game. The BV team beat me there and were laughing when I walked in. IMO there is no conflict. Go in, do your best, and go home.

chartrusepengui Mon Jan 12, 2009 02:12pm

what's the difference if you do this or you do a boys/girls varsity game back to back the same evening the way some places do.

Forget everything else and just do both games well.

slow whistle Mon Jan 12, 2009 02:14pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 567691)
Just to add to what Ch1town said, I would never do this because it would feel like I was big-timing the teams. It would be almost like I said, "Coach, knock it off, I was slumming earlier."

Exactly my point, it is very hard to pull this off without looking like a complete D-B....so I have never said anything and just born the brunt...my partners usually like it b/c they get left alone as I have gotten hammered!


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