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Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Fri Jan 09, 2009 06:54pm
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Originally Posted by M&M Guy (Post 566898)
It's apples and kumquats, by the way. Get it right. :p

M&M Guy:

That is not right either. It is dollars to donuts, opps that is betting dollars to donuts. Me bad. :p

MTD, Sr.

Camron Rust Fri Jan 09, 2009 07:58pm
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Originally Posted by OHBBREF (Post 566881)
Well it does matter but that wasn't really my point,...
I agreed with you on the rest...ball goes that high, it's will be a T under all but a most extreme set of circumstances.

As for what we call it. I don't agree that it matters. It is NOT the same as "reaching in", "over the back", etc. Those miscommunicate what happens in a way that is detrimental...implying what could be an entirely legal act as being illegal. We could call such a stoppage a respite, a lull, a break, or any other synonym for all anyone would care and it would never make a difference.

It is even more irrelevant of an argument than worrying about whether a coach requests or calls timeout and on par with whether you call it an endline or a baseline.

Bishopcolle Fri Jan 09, 2009 08:13pm
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Originally Posted by deecee (Post 566888)
Ill give the kid the benefit of the doubt here. Its not like this is a rampantly occuring item during games where we need to worry about will the kid learn a lesson or not from a T or not T. Either way he will learn, as long as someone tells him.
I can't disagree with you more.....In this situation, you give him the T even HE expects, and then give him counseling (if you so desire.) He knows he earned the T, and he will disrespect you for not giving it to him...IMHO....

bob jenkins Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:46pm
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Originally Posted by deecee (Post 566901)
Its just not one that I would call if it were clear that a player did this out of frustration for turning it over and especially when the period was ending.

Of course a player can be frustrated. S/he also need to handle the frustration properly and deal with the consequences if s/he doesn't.

just another ref Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:37pm
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Originally Posted by deecee (Post 566901)
..... I would probably say "good call" because after all its not a bad call.

http://www.originalmmc.com/images/Al...%20Kimball.jpg

This struck me. I bet Billy Mac gets it.

deecee Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:57pm
I am not saying or trying to to argue that anyone else shouldnt call the T if they want, I have just been expressing what I would do and my reasoning for it. Just because I disagree with how someone will handle a situation doesn't mean I will criticize their choice and what they did. You can have 2 "good" options on how to handle 1 situation with 2 completly different outcomes.

Adam Sat Jan 10, 2009 08:03am
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Originally Posted by deecee (Post 566905)
My best T is one I dont have to call.
Damm, where's Jurassic when we need him?


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