|
|
|
Sun Jan 04, 2009, 09:28pm
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
It was from USA Today - I actually posted it. (Link above, article excerpt below) Many fans believe NBA referees ignore all but the most blatant of traveling calls. But after countless hours of video review, Foster maintains that most of the time, they get it right. The NBA allows a "two-count rhythm" after a player gathers the ball. But fans don't recognize that a player must have complete possession of the ball, and that the steps start after the gather. "In some cases that can be two very large strides to the basket," Foster says. "After reviewing tape it is often seen that what fans might have thought was a travel is in fact just an 'awkward' legal move." At other levels of basketball, players are whistled for traveling if they fall to the floor with the ball. Not so in the NBA — as long as the player gains no advantage by rolling or sliding away from an opponent. An NBA player is also free to rise if he gains control of the ball while on the floor. There is an instance where NBA referees call traveling that won't be called at other levels. It's the "hop-hop" travel, when a player alights off a foot and lands on the same foot, i.e., a "jump stop."
__________________
There was the person who sent ten puns to friends, with the hope that at least one of the puns would make them laugh. No pun in ten did. 
|
|
Sun Jan 04, 2009, 09:58pm
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
 The NBA should change their traveling rule to match the FIBA rule.
|
|
Sun Jan 04, 2009, 10:06pm
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
__________________
"Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are." -- John Wooden
|
|
Mon Jan 05, 2009, 01:42pm
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
In short, the first count is when the ball has been gathered and upon the gather the first foot (feet) to contact the floor. meaning that if a player gathers the ball off the floor and lands with both feet that is the count of 1. if he gathers while on the floor, that is the count of 1. The second count is after the first... obviously. If the player gathers the ball in the air and lands with two then he is allowed to pivot upon landing, as he has only completed a count of 1. If the gather is prior to leaving the floor then he has to land with both, due to the "two-count rhythm" guidelines and he is not allowed to pivot. This is the same as the HS and college rule! I've said that for years! The only play that is different is our "hop" travel rule.
__________________
"players must decide the outcome of the game with legal actions, not illegal actions which an official chooses to ignore."
|
|
Mon Jan 05, 2009, 02:26pm
|
|||
|
|||
|
They had former player and "expert of all things NBA" Jalen rose on ESPN First Take to discuss the play. He described what a crab dribble is and laughed as he said the "crab dribble had absolutely nothing to do with the three steps he took on his way to the hoop." I was actually kind of relieved to hear that basically everyone there, except Lebron, agreed, just as we do here: It's always a travel, they just don't call it. The only question that remains is
WHY?
__________________
I swear, Gus, you'd argue with a possum. It'd be easier than arguing with you, Woodrow. Lonesome Dove
|
|
Mon Jan 05, 2009, 02:26pm
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
I still don't understand. Are you saying that if a player gathers the ball with his right foot on the floor and then his left foot comes down to the floor that his left foot is his pivot foot? I have tried numerous times to grasp this 2 count rhythm thing and I am absolutely clueless.
|
|
Mon Jan 05, 2009, 02:43pm
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
__________________
"players must decide the outcome of the game with legal actions, not illegal actions which an official chooses to ignore."
|
|
Mon Jan 05, 2009, 02:51pm
|
|||
|
|||
|
All this talk about crab is making me hungry.
I've also never seen a crab dribble a basketball so I think this is all a mute [sic, just for mbyron] point.
__________________
Even if you’re on the right track, you’ll get run over if you just sit there. - Will Rogers
|
|
Mon Jan 05, 2009, 04:13pm
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
Can you give me a specific example of a play/move that would be a travel in NFHS/NCAA etc... and legal in the NBA?
|
|
Mon Jan 05, 2009, 05:24pm
|
|||
|
|||
|
This will help your coach/player relationship......
From today's Washington Post:
"Cavaliers Coach Mike Brown, who was ejected in the fourth quarter for disputing an offensive foul on James, agreed with head official Bill Spooner's call that James indeed traveled on the possession."
__________________
There was the person who sent ten puns to friends, with the hope that at least one of the puns would make them laugh. No pun in ten did.
|
|
Mon Jan 05, 2009, 09:17pm
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
As i have stated years before, there is really no difference in the pro and college rules in traveling. The only way it is refereed different, imo, is that referees at the college and HS level is that they call travels that are marginal or really inconclusive or too close to call or plays that look awkward, whereas in the pro game we are told that we MUST pick up the pivot foot and be 100% sure that it is a travel and if we don't know, not to guess even if you go "ohhhh! that looked funny". I believe that is why the pros catch gufff for quote unquote "they never call travels".
__________________
"players must decide the outcome of the game with legal actions, not illegal actions which an official chooses to ignore."
|
|
Tue Jan 06, 2009, 06:31pm
|
|||
|
|||
|
... "Referee Bill Spooner waved off the play and called the violation. Asked to clarify his ruling, Spooner wrote in an e-mail to a pool reporter: "3 steps on the move to the basket. Basic travel call."
... "Asked Monday if he knows what a "crab dribble" is, Wizards All-Star forward Antawn Jamison said, "I know what a traveling is. ... I think we all know what traveling is." So now we know who some of those unnamed "guests" reading this thread have been ...
|
|
Tue Jan 06, 2009, 07:07pm
|
|||
|
|||
|
PTI featuers Crab Dribble Tonight
Tony K thinks it's a travel and Bob Ryan says to let it go, quoting some NBA rule about a "two step rhythm".
__________________
Pope Francis
|
|
Mon Jan 05, 2009, 03:01pm
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
__________________
Sprinkles are for winners.
|
 |
| Bookmarks |
|
|
Similar Threads
|
||||
| Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
| Dribble fumble dribble? | Clark Kent | Basketball | 20 | Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:35pm |
| dribble/fumble/dribble | scat03 | Basketball | 6 | Wed Oct 25, 2006 06:41pm |
| When is a dribble a dribble? | basketballen | Basketball | 19 | Mon Apr 03, 2006 06:49am |
| When is a dribble a dribble? | Back In The Saddle | Basketball | 3 | Sat Jan 21, 2006 11:04pm |
| What's an "air dribble"? | EL | Basketball | 6 | Wed Jan 12, 2000 02:46pm |
Hybrid Mode
