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Old Sat Jan 03, 2009, 05:49pm
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Are you doing an adult church league or a youth church league?

If you have done four games total, I would hope that you are NOT doing an adult league. If you are, get the earplugs out and go. Unless you have done many other games before getting licensed (outside the four you mentioned), you will likely will in over your head in this atmosphere. I can only recommend calling what you see. If you want to be invited back, I would not become a T-Machine -- after all, you are new and are prone to being not so good. Try to ignore the comments -- unless they are personal or involve profanity. Follow the three Ws. Good luck!!!
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Old Sat Jan 03, 2009, 06:09pm
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Be calm, be professional, be patient, keep your cool.

When you've had enough, warn and then follow the warning with a T.
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Old Sat Jan 03, 2009, 10:18pm
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Are you doing an adult church league or a youth church league?

If you have done four games total, I would hope that you are NOT doing an adult league. If you are, get the earplugs out and go. Unless you have done many other games before getting licensed (outside the four you mentioned), you will likely will in over your head in this atmosphere. I can only recommend calling what you see. If you want to be invited back, I would not become a T-Machine -- after all, you are new and are prone to being not so good. Try to ignore the comments -- unless they are personal or involve profanity. Follow the three Ws. Good luck!!!

Yes this is adult men league. I am definitely looking forward to the challenge. I am excited about it, and I DO know that I don't have a lot of experience and that's why I want to take this league.

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Old Sat Jan 03, 2009, 11:52pm
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One guy even said "if you can tolerate the players in that league, you can handle any coach."
This is nonsense. Most coaches at a school have the threat of being reported to a higher organization. These idiot adults don't.

If you want to work this dreck, go for it, but don't think you'll learn much from it.
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Old Sun Jan 04, 2009, 05:17am
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There is a lot to be learned by working this level of ball. There's patience. There's how to deal with hotheaded has-beens. There's how to deal with clueless and abrasive never-weres.

The purpose of most church leagues is not competitive sports. The purpose is fellowship, exercise, and sportsmanship. Don't allow the idiots (and there are always at least a few) to derail the purposes of the game. Don't take crap. Don't lose any sleep over calls you made, didn't make, missed, etc.

Do be professional. Do act the part. Do not be surprised at how many people are completely clueless about what your part is.

Above all, communicate your expectations about player behavior in appropriate ways. Then back up those expectations.

Seriously, the worst that can happen is that you get invited back. (No, that wasn't a typo).
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Old Sun Jan 04, 2009, 02:42pm
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Men's Church League...... the brawl that begins with a prayer......... some things never change. :-)
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Old Mon Jan 05, 2009, 04:03pm
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First off, welcome skeeter! I too was in the same boat. Been watching around then finally came to sign up. I too have a love of the game but I too know there are a lot of things that I need to improve on. And if you haven't noticed, I am only 17 years of age. So I have a little time to improve. Heck, I can't even do middle school games yet...I'm stuck with Church Leagues, Rec Leagues, etc. So I think I can offer you a little advice.

Church leagues can be rough. However, the one thing that I learned is that normally the person in charge of the league will protect you. And I don't mean from physical harm, but in the sense he will back you up. So my first step would to develop some sort of relationship with the leader of the program. The next thing I would do is to ensure that I have a strong pregame speech. If needed, have a speech with just the coaches, then invite the players for the normal pregame.

Doing that will help set the ground rules. Also, another thing that you want to do is establish a relationship with the coaches. Don't come on like a hardass, but they too need to know that you are the official of the game. If you guys talk outside the game about anything, football, basketball, anything, it normally helps out a little. Do the same for the kids. If you are waiting to do a game and sitting in the stands, don't be afraid to talk to them. A lot of officials do that here and some how it works out well. I mean, they know them both on and off the court. And they too know that when they are on the court, he has to call his game, but the kids too know that they wont get away with a lot because you have a relationship and that you know you may be watched more than the others.

So that's something to keep in mind. My advice is to let them play the game within the rules! hahaha...not trying to be a smartass, but let them play a little. I like to call my games a little loose yet tight. Meaning that if they barely got hit on the arm and the shot goes in, I'm not calling it. But if they go for a layup and their is collision, you need to call it. I hope you know what I mean...let them play, dont be real tight, yet make sure its within the rules.

Overall, communication is important. Talk things out. If a coach is yelling, give him a warning, gently. Like, "alright coach, that's enough". If he keeps it up, give him a firm warning "That's Enough!" then if he continues, T him up. Make sure he sits down, then resume game.

Hope that helps. It works for the two church leagues I referee. PM me if you need more advice on this.

Take care and good luck!
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