Why do you officiate?

[Dan_ref]

I ref because there is nothing better than getting
screamed at by a bunch of neanderthals (otherwise known
as parents/coaches) at AAU tourneys. I can just hear
them now: "3 seconds! Call it both ways! Heze alloverem!"
Got 6 this weekend, I can't wait! I hope I get the
middlecourt of 3 crosscourt games!

[rainmaker]

Originally posted by Mark Padgett
I ref so that I can participate in this board and learn how to improve my spelling and grammar.

Bwahahahahaha...!!!!!

I started for:
1) exercise
2) second income
3) wanting to give better games to the younger players

I keep on because

4) addiction
5) can you say...WNBA?

[JRutledge]

Originally posted by zebraman


It is much more enjoyable and I don't think about how many miles I'm putting in when I'm officiating....it doesn't seem like work (yes Rut, including AAU leagues).


Z

Will you please get off the AAU stuff. AAU, Pop Warner, LL, Travelling baseball, ASA Softball Tournaments and many other things that are not associated with NF or College games are extra. I do 3 sports and I bearly have time for all of the regular season stuff. All of these leagues or tournaments are run well in some places, and are run bad in others. I never said I do not enjoy any AAU or anything for that matter. But I will discriminate for which ones that I do. I do like to have a life outside of officiating thank you.

Peace

[stripes]

Originally posted by JRutledge

Will you please get off the AAU stuff. AAU, Pop Warner, LL, Travelling baseball, ASA Softball Tournaments and many other things that are not associated with NF or College games are extra. I do 3 sports and I bearly have time for all of the regular season stuff. All of these leagues or tournaments are run well in some places, and are run bad in others. I never said I do not enjoy any AAU or anything for that matter. But I will discriminate for which ones that I do. I do like to have a life outside of officiating thank you.

Peace

Sorry Jeff, but you brought this one on yourself. You can't harp on something as long and hard as you did and not expect to get some ribbing from others about it.

[JRutledge]

this is about zebraman and his mischaracterization. He basically lied about what I said. I have the right to set the record straight with his comment.

Last time I checked am an independent contractor, and if I want to hate anything, I think I have that right. I do not think anyone has the right to tell me what to officiate and not to officiate. But this is a board of the "all holy" at times. We all do this for the kids, yeah right. Then do not accept money when you are volunteering next time.

Peace

[stripes]

Originally posted by JRutledge
this is about zebraman and his mischaracterization. He basically lied about what I said. I have the right to set the record straight with his comment.

Last time I checked am an independent contractor, and if I want to hate anything, I think I have that right. I do not think anyone has the right to tell me what to officiate and not to officiate. But this is a board of the "all holy" at times. We all do this for the kids, yeah right. Then do not accept money when you are volunteering next time.

Peace

You have the right to set anything straight as you see fit. However, if someone takes a poke at you, you have to be ready for it and take it like a man. Officiate whatever, wherever you like. Hate whatever you want. I don't care what or how you do it and I believe that no one else here does either. Rememeber that it is ok for you to disagree with them and for them to disagree with you. BTW, you are right about the "holiness" of this board at times, but used properly, it can be a good tool.

Take some of your own advice, no one here (or almost no one ) knows you personally. Let them believe whatever they want and go on with life. You'll sleep better.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally posted by JRutledge
Just because Mr. Padgett does not understand the rules differences does not mean that they are bad rules.
Peace

Who says I don't understand FEEBLE rules? I took a course in advanced Metric at Charles DeGaulle University. I squeezed it in between my courses on cheese.

My point is not that they are bad rules because I don't understand them, my point isn't even that they are necessarily bad rules. My point (as Ellen Degeneres says - and I do have one) is that some arrogant Euro group claims to be the "World's Governing Authority" on basketball and basketball rules when the reality is that basketball is an American game invented by a Canadian and has been played in North America far longer (and, of course, far better) than anywhere else on the globe. If there is going to be a body of dudes who have the right to claim they are the "World's Governing Authority" for this game internationally, they should be located here and derive their authority from the fact that no one knows our game better than us.

Let the Euros stick to something they know, like boring soccer and cheese.

[JRutledge]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by stripes
[B]

Originally posted by JRutledge


Take some of your own advice, no one here (or almost no one ) knows you personally. Let them believe whatever they want and go on with life. You'll sleep better.

Do not need to take advice. I personally do not care what others think. That takes energy that I do not. But reponding to when someone lies about something I said is what this board is all about. I think a few need to look up the word "discussion." That does not mean I just go along with anything that is being said.

BTW, I always sleep well.

Peace

[stripes]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by JRutledge
[B]

Originally posted by stripes

Do not need to take advice. I personally do not care what others think. That takes energy that I do not.
BTW, I always sleep well.

Peace

This is exactly what I mean. Don't waste the energy.

[zebraman]

We all do this for the kids, yeah right.

Rut, I most certainly do. As I said before, it doesn't make sense to do it for the money. When you figure out your "per hour" ratio, it is peanuts. Most of the officials in my area are professionals and could make more staying a little late at work than they do for the whole officiating season. It is obvious from your statements that you don't do it for the kids. That's fine..but I do and so do many.

Then do not accept money when you are volunteering next time.

If I accepted money, it would not be considered volunteering by definition so that makes no sense. I have often reffed boy's club, special olympics, and other youth tourneys for free. That is called volunteering. Other times I get paid. I would still ref if it wasn't paid...just not so many nights during the season. The money is a bonus and I have never turned it down.

I have never intentionally lied about anything you said. You flame people regularly and then act defensive when I make a reference to your dislike for AAU ball which you have railed on endless times. You are hard to follow quite often. You seem to contradict yourself quite often. You claim to not care what anyone says yet you go to great lengths (and many paragraphs) when someone disagrees with you. You re-open closed threads to "get in the last word." You say some of us don't have a life because we do some AAU ball which is really none of your business. Besides, I do one sport and you do three so if your definition of not having a life is too much reffing, look in the mirror. Take your own advice and chill.

Z

[JRutledge]

Originally posted by zebraman
We all do this for the kids, yeah right.

Rut, I most certainly do. As I said before, it doesn't make sense to do it for the money. When you figure out your "per hour" ratio, it is peanuts. Most of the officials in my area are professionals and could make more staying a little late at work than they do for the whole officiating season. It is obvious from your statements that you don't do it for the kids. That's fine..but I do and so do many.

Then do not accept money when you are volunteering next time.

If I accepted money, it would not be considered volunteering by definition so that makes no sense. I have often reffed boy's club, special olympics, and other youth tourneys for free. That is called volunteering. Other times I get paid. I would still ref if it wasn't paid...just not so many nights during the season. The money is a bonus and I have never turned it down.

I have never intentionally lied about anything you said. You flame people regularly and then act defensive when I make a reference to your dislike for AAU ball which you have railed on endless times. You are hard to follow quite often. You seem to contradict yourself quite often. You claim to not care what anyone says yet you go to great lengths (and many paragraphs) when someone disagrees with you. You re-open closed threads to "get in the last word." You say some of us don't have a life because we do some AAU ball which is really none of your business. Besides, I do one sport and you do three so if your definition of not having a life is too much reffing, look in the mirror. Take your own advice and chill.

Z

I guess you consider it a flame when I respond to you, when you respond to me it is not? Interesting. I guess you must really care, you reponded with a couple of paragraphs means you do not care but I do. I see you logic and the rules applies to me but not you, you make perfect sense. :P

Well all that is neither here nor there. You still lied about what I said about AAU. My comment was what it was, "What do you expect, it is an AAU Tournament?" AAU is usually a very mixed bag, that was the whole point. But I guess that means I do not do them or never do tournaments to you. You are on this board, what else should I expect? That is why I said you lied. Maybe you do not need to get a life, but you sure as hell need to not worry what I (I is the crucial word here) think about Stupid AAU tournaments. I know many more officials that do not do any of AAU or any summer ball for that matter than the ones that do. So I guess that means that many of us do not like them or do not care one way or the other. So while you are doing AAU, I am doing baseball. At least during the spring. You can have them, I will be on the Pier. Or at Great America, or anywhere I want to spend my summer.

I guess this is a flame in your definition.

Peace

[zebraman]

Let it go man, let it go.

Z

[Mark Dexter]

First off, I think Godman's or whoever's hypothesis needs to be modified - in any Officiating.com discussion, the topic will eventually turn to FIBA/Metric/"World Championship" blabber - you know the stuff.

I like to officiate because I have a highly technical/rules-oriented mind (which is why I'm also selected for roles such as election monitor and parliamentarian ), and the fact that I can't play a lick of basketball, so this is a great way to be involved in the game (you think Shaq is bad at free-throws??)

As most of you know, I got started on the other side of the table. My freshman year, I showed up very early to play in our 3-piece pep band, and the JV coach had me sit at the table and learn the clock. At the end of the season, the father of a friend gave me his rulebook/casebook/official's manual from that year and I started reading. Of course, when I got to college and was finally able to get out on the floor (albeit in an IM league) I did - making myself only one of maybe 3 refs to have read an actual rulebook.

[JRutledge]

Originally posted by zebraman
Let it go man, let it go.

Z

It is gone. Believe me it is gone.

Peace

[Mark Padgett]

Originally posted by Mark Dexter
in any Officiating.com discussion, the topic will eventually turn to FIBA/Metric/"World Championship" blabber - you know the stuff.

Thanks. It looks like all my hard work is finally paying off.