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refnrev Mon Dec 22, 2008 10:57pm

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Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo (Post 560813)
They say all three points - both feet and ball - in this case the ball was never dribbled in FC.

To all of those who work 3-man: are you ok with the C calling a B/C violation?

1. You might want to rethink that statement... you're not correct here.
2. Of course the C should call it.. often, in a press situation the C is right on the division line when this happens.

Johnny Ringo Tue Dec 23, 2008 01:07am

Re-think which statement?

It was a B/C violation. I worded it wrong from the get-go. The problem was the T could not completely see the play and the C was right on it. However, the C told the T it was his line.

Scrapper1 Tue Dec 23, 2008 08:49am

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Originally Posted by TheOracle (Post 560863)
My motto: "Call whatever you want in my area. Just make sure you are correct."

Everything else is noise and ego.

I disagree, but we've had this discussion dozens of times.

jdw3018 Tue Dec 23, 2008 09:03am

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Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo (Post 560891)
Re-think which statement?

He's just saying to rethink your "all three points" statement since it is in no way germane to this situation because the player wasn't dribbling.

If you knew it was a B/C violation, why did you include that statement?

bob jenkins Tue Dec 23, 2008 09:08am

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Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo (Post 560807)
The T is deep in the backcourt with the A1 (who as the ball) and B1.

A1 fires a baseball pass to A2 who is near the division line. A2 catches it with one foot in F/C and the other in B/C. A2 lifts foot in B/C and gets stuck an then throws to A3 who is in the B/C.

The T is way behind the play and as trouble seeing it. First, is this a violation and second is it o.k. for C to call this?

Not only is it "o.k.", it's expected for C to call this.

BBall_Junkie Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:29am

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Originally Posted by Ch1town (Post 560820)
Is the C located somewhere near the division line or at the division line with a 100% high certainty look? .

Can someone define 100% high certainty to me?

Contradiction in terms imo.

Scratch85 Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:51am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 560969)
Not only is it "o.k.", it's expected for C to call this.

This has a 100% high certainty :D of being correct. This has been discussed in other threads and as stated before, the Officials Manual gives provisions for transition. 3.3.5 C(2) states that the C is responsible for fouls and violations between top of the circle in the backcourt to top of the circle in front court. And I take this to mean sideline to sideline.

Once the transition is over (ball in the frontcourt) cover your PCA.

Johnny Ringo Tue Dec 23, 2008 11:58am

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Originally Posted by jdw3018 (Post 560963)
He's just saying to rethink your "all three points" statement since it is in no way germane to this situation because the player wasn't dribbling.

If you knew it was a B/C violation, why did you include that statement?

Written poorly ... meant to to suggest that T had a tough look at a play and was not sure if it was B/C violation. THANKS!

jdw3018 Tue Dec 23, 2008 01:04pm

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Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo (Post 561059)
Written poorly ... meant to to suggest that T had a tough look at a play and was not sure if it was B/C violation. THANKS!

Gotcha...makes sense to me now!

jdmara Tue Dec 23, 2008 02:01pm

All the 3-man that I've worked, this is the C's call. The C should be near mid-court at this point since there is ball pressure. Unless the ball is within 5 (or so) feet of the division line, this should be C's call. If the ball handler is within 5 (or so) feet of the division line, I guess the T could call it as well. my (Corrected) $0.02

-Josh

Adam Tue Dec 23, 2008 03:05pm

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Originally Posted by jdmara (Post 561132)
All the 3-man that I've worked, this is the C's call. The C should be near mid-court at this point since there is ball pressure. Unless the ball is within 5 (or so) feet of the division line, should this be T's call. my $0.02

-Josh

???
The ball has to be pretty close to the division line; it's a backcourt violation. :)

jdmara Tue Dec 23, 2008 04:14pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 561162)
???
The ball has to be pretty close to the division line; it's a backcourt violation. :)

*(&#

Now I screwed it up...I will fix it..Thanks Snaq

-Josh


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