Overtime "pre-game"

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

(Slight) hijack:

As they break the huddle, I let him know that was their last TO.

Is this something we do by rule at the HS level?? I've always done this, but I was told last night by my partner who was the R & also a State Championship official "that nothing but trouble can come from doing that. And that is the assistant coaches responsibility".
Thoughts?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

Is this something we do by rule at the HS level?? I've always done this, but I was told last night by my partner who was the R & also a State Championship official "that nothing but trouble can come from doing that. And that is the assistant coaches responsibility".
Thoughts?

Yes, we are to inform them after they use their last TO. I don't, however, tell them when they're down to one left (I used to do that).

Let me have a rules reference when you have a minute kind sir.

The Rs logic in not providing the info, was what if the table provides you with the wrong info & you give that to coach... now what??

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

Let me have a rules reference when you have a minute kind sir.

The Rs logic in not providing the info, was what if the table provides you with the wrong info & you give that to coach... now what??

Look in the "scorer's duties" section.

If you tell the coach s/he has none left, and s/he think s/he does, it will lead to a discussion right away and the correct answer will be found.

The R's logic, though, is why I don't tell a coach that s/he has one TO left.

Will do, appreciate it!

In my sitch the R asked me to check TOs remaining since I granted the TO. I flashed 0 & I asked him to let her know since he was giving that team the 1st horn warning. He kinda looked me off & after the game I asked why. That's when he said letting them know they are out is nothing but trouble.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

Is this something we do by rule at the HS level?? I've always done this, but I was told last night by my partner who was the R & also a State Championship official "that nothing but trouble can come from doing that. And that is the assistant coaches responsibility".
Thoughts?

Discussed ad nauseum on this site.

It depends on how you (or your area) interpret "The score shall notify a team through the closest official when a team has used its last time out." (or whatever the specific wording is.

Some say that means an official is supposed to do it. I'm in this camp.

Others say something like, "It's in the scorer's duties, not the official's duties, so I don't do it." (I admit that since I'm not in this camp that I might not be descrbing this position accurately.)

And, others notify a team on 1 time out left and / or zero. I don't -- only zero.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

Is this something we do by rule at the HS level?? I've always done this, but I was told last night by my partner who was the R & also a State Championship official "that nothing but trouble can come from doing that. And that is the assistant coaches responsibility".
Thoughts?

Point out to your partner 2-11-6 (Scorer's Duties): "Record the time-out information charged to each team (who and when), and notify a team and its coach through an official whenever that team is granted its final allotted charged time out."

So I always let a team know when they have used their last TO. As far as avoiding trouble, if trouble happens (due to a scorekeeper's mistake), it will happen whether I'm the one relaying the info or not, and we'll have to deal with it anyway.

Thanks! Is the same true at the NCAA level? I notice a lot of guys bring those philosophies down to HS games when they're slummin.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

Thanks! Is the same true at the NCAA level? I notice a lot of guys bring those philosophies down to HS games when they're slummin.

Sigh.

Nearly the same wording. The book is available on line.

Thanks... I think

[icallfouls]

Try this. "The bookkeeper says you are out of timeouts" or " I am told that you have 1 timeout left"

Better to find out if there is a discrepancy before it is too late.