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Adam Tue Dec 09, 2008 08:18pm

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Originally Posted by buckrog64 (Post 556789)
Yeah, thought we were talking about uniforms and not extra time outs. I'm not sure if I'd let someone in without a uniform that reflects the rules. 'I'm sorry, but she forgot her uniform, so she'll wear her brother's who is on the JV team.' "I'm sorry but we had budget cuts, we have 12 black uniforms, two gray uniforms and one red uniform, but they're all road uniforms...' All at the cost of a single T.

So you're going to ignore the rule and tell a kid she can't play? If so, and if it happens, get used to middle school ball.

BillyMac Tue Dec 09, 2008 09:43pm

I Get To Use My Study Guide Again ...
 
Penalized when discovered: The head coach shall not permit a team member to participate while wearing an illegal number. Head coach direct technical foul. Penalized when discovered. A maximum of one technical foul shall be charged directly to the head coach regardless of the number of offenders. The team member with the illegal uniform number may participate without further penalty and is not required to change his/her number. If no changes are made to the scorebook, no infraction has occurred.

BillyMac Tue Dec 09, 2008 09:52pm

NFHS: Please Make 0 Legal, and 00 Illegal, Period ...
 
Team A has one team member wearing 0, and the another team member wearing 00. Maybe one, or both participate, becoming players. Maybe they don't. In all cases, the 0, and 00, are discovered after the ten minute mark. Maybe before the game starts. Maybe after the game starts.

Are these considered identical numbers?
Penalized when discovered: A team shall not have identical numbers on team members, and/or players, after the ten minute time limit. Team technical foul. Charged upon discovery of identical numbers. A maximum of one foul per team regardless of the number of infractions. A maximum of one technical foul per team regardless of the number of infractions for 2a, 3a, 3b, 3c, 4a. Only one team member may wear a given number; the other must change to a number not already in use before participating.

Are these considered illegal numbers?Penalized when discovered: The head coach shall not permit a team member to participate while wearing an illegal number. Head coach direct technical foul. Penalized when discovered. A maximum of one technical foul shall be charged directly to the head coach regardless of the number of offenders. The team member with the illegal uniform number may participate without further penalty and is not required to change his/her number. If no changes are made to the scorebook, no infraction has occurred.

"I've given you a topic. Talk amongst yourselves".

bob jenkins Wed Dec 10, 2008 09:55am

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 556844)
Are these considered identical numbers

Are these considered illegal numbers

According to the 2008-2009 interps, the answers are "No" and "Yes."

Note that some (NevadaRef for one) think the interp is "wrong." If you search the other interps in that thread, you'll find one from 2002 or so (I'm doing thsi from memory) that has an immediate T for duplicate numbers if both 0 and 00 are listed.

Anyone can proposed rules changes to the FED -- you should do so if it bothers you.

buckrog64 Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:30am

Unsporting act/conduct; off bench/outside box; not replacing player as required in 20 seconds; *leaving bench during fight unless beckoned; playing a disqualified player; illegal jersey/ pants/number (10-5).

This is a direct to the head coach, counts towards team foul count, whereas it use to be assessed to the player in the good old days.

This is from the technical foul summary page in the book. It doesn't say anything about a player not playing. Thanks for helping me get this clarified.

chartrusepengui Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:40am

A lot of MS/JR High girl's teams share uniforms with volleyball teams in my area. And - it seams the volleyball coaches always get to pick the numbers.

summdawg76 Wed Dec 10, 2008 05:25pm

Why is 67 an illegal number and are there other numbers that are illegal?

Adam Wed Dec 10, 2008 05:32pm

1. Because the rule book doesn't allow it.
2. Yes.

M&M Guy Wed Dec 10, 2008 05:33pm

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Originally Posted by summdawg76 (Post 557145)
Why is 67 an illegal number and are there other numbers that are illegal?

Rule 3-4-3. All numerals are from 0 through 5. So, legal numbers would be 0,1,2,3,4,5,10,11,12,13,14,15, etc., to 55. I believe they do that so it is easy to report each numeral with one hand.

M&M Guy Wed Dec 10, 2008 05:35pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 557146)
1. Because the rule book doesn't allow it.
2. Yes.

Geeze, aren't we grumpy today.

Adam Wed Dec 10, 2008 05:41pm

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Originally Posted by M&M Guy (Post 557148)
Geeze, aren't we grumpy today.

Just getting in touch with my inner Dan.

mbyron Thu Dec 11, 2008 07:45am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 557149)
Just getting in touch with my inner Dan.

Inside joke alert.

Scrapper1 Thu Dec 11, 2008 09:12am

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Originally Posted by M&M Guy (Post 557147)
legal numbers would be 0,1,2,3,4,5,10,11,12,13,14,15, etc., to 55.

Don't forget 00. :D

BillyMac Thu Dec 11, 2008 09:51am

Goodbye Robert Parrish ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrapper1 (Post 557276)
Don't forget 00.

I wish the NFHS would.


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