Illegal Numbers-NFHS
 

I know #67 is an illegal number but I have been told by some officials #67 can "buy" thieir way into the game. I have NEVER heard of this before. If the head coach receives a direct "T" and loses their coaching box, he/she (#67) can play in a Varsity game.:eek:

I don't know how that is possible but any help on this would be great. Comments would be great.:)

I think the rule is well defined. A player can't 'buy' their way into a game with the wrong colored t-shirt or headbands or whatever, with a technical foul. Tough luck coach!

While the penalty for this has been changed, NF rule 10-5-4 still states "The head coach shall not permit a team member to participate while wearing an illegal uniform."

Thanks Mark And Buck!!!! I have what I need.

Right -- because those are "equipment / apparel" -- 3-5.

The number is part of the uniform -- 3-4. The penalty for this is a T. See the "comments on changes" section in the front of the case book

Are you saying that I cannot "buy' a 6th time out also????


Dang, Bob beat me to it....

So 67 can play if coach takes the T?

I know right, but pg. 4 of the case book says yes.

[QUOTE=bob jenkins;556760]
The number is part of the uniform -- 3-4. The penalty for this is a T. /QUOTE]


Bob, you need to give one of your concise, correct answers on this. I already fear someone has left the post with the wrong opinion on this.

Actually, it makes sense to me. It's not the same as an illegal headband (no T for this). If there's a T for it, then it seems to me they can "buy" the player in. Especially since we're limited to 1 T per team per game for the illegal uniforms.

They not only can "buy" the player in, they can "buy" all the players in with illegal uniforms. For the small price of one T. IMO that would be any illegal uniform regardless of why it is illegal.

[QUOTE=Scratch85;556770]
For transgressions of 3-4: It's a T (one per team, charged directly to the head coach), but individuals can play with the illegal item(s).

For trangressions of 3-5: No T, but individuals cannot play with the illegal item(s).

Yeah, thought we were talking about uniforms and not extra time outs. I'm not sure if I'd let someone in without a uniform that reflects the rules. 'I'm sorry, but she forgot her uniform, so she'll wear her brother's who is on the JV team.' "I'm sorry but we had budget cuts, we have 12 black uniforms, two gray uniforms and one red uniform, but they're all road uniforms...' All at the cost of a single T.

[QUOTE=bob jenkins;556782]
Thanks, always listen to Bob.

That's my understanding of this as well.

"Always listen to Bob." :)

So you're going to ignore the rule and tell a kid she can't play? If so, and if it happens, get used to middle school ball.

I Get To Use My Study Guide Again ...
 

Penalized when discovered: The head coach shall not permit a team member to participate while wearing an illegal number. Head coach direct technical foul. Penalized when discovered. A maximum of one technical foul shall be charged directly to the head coach regardless of the number of offenders. The team member with the illegal uniform number may participate without further penalty and is not required to change his/her number. If no changes are made to the scorebook, no infraction has occurred.

NFHS: Please Make 0 Legal, and 00 Illegal, Period ...
 

Team A has one team member wearing 0, and the another team member wearing 00. Maybe one, or both participate, becoming players. Maybe they don't. In all cases, the 0, and 00, are discovered after the ten minute mark. Maybe before the game starts. Maybe after the game starts.

Are these considered identical numbers?
Penalized when discovered: A team shall not have identical numbers on team members, and/or players, after the ten minute time limit. Team technical foul. Charged upon discovery of identical numbers. A maximum of one foul per team regardless of the number of infractions. A maximum of one technical foul per team regardless of the number of infractions for 2a, 3a, 3b, 3c, 4a. Only one team member may wear a given number; the other must change to a number not already in use before participating.

Are these considered illegal numbers?Penalized when discovered: The head coach shall not permit a team member to participate while wearing an illegal number. Head coach direct technical foul. Penalized when discovered. A maximum of one technical foul shall be charged directly to the head coach regardless of the number of offenders. The team member with the illegal uniform number may participate without further penalty and is not required to change his/her number. If no changes are made to the scorebook, no infraction has occurred.

"I've given you a topic. Talk amongst yourselves".

According to the 2008-2009 interps, the answers are "No" and "Yes."

Note that some (NevadaRef for one) think the interp is "wrong." If you search the other interps in that thread, you'll find one from 2002 or so (I'm doing thsi from memory) that has an immediate T for duplicate numbers if both 0 and 00 are listed.

Anyone can proposed rules changes to the FED -- you should do so if it bothers you.

Unsporting act/conduct; off bench/outside box; not replacing player as required in 20 seconds; *leaving bench during fight unless beckoned; playing a disqualified player; illegal jersey/ pants/number (10-5).

This is a direct to the head coach, counts towards team foul count, whereas it use to be assessed to the player in the good old days.

This is from the technical foul summary page in the book. It doesn't say anything about a player not playing. Thanks for helping me get this clarified.

A lot of MS/JR High girl's teams share uniforms with volleyball teams in my area. And - it seams the volleyball coaches always get to pick the numbers.

Why is 67 an illegal number and are there other numbers that are illegal?

1. Because the rule book doesn't allow it.
2. Yes.

Rule 3-4-3. All numerals are from 0 through 5. So, legal numbers would be 0,1,2,3,4,5,10,11,12,13,14,15, etc., to 55. I believe they do that so it is easy to report each numeral with one hand.

Geeze, aren't we grumpy today.

Just getting in touch with my inner Dan.

Don't forget 00. :D

Goodbye Robert Parrish ...
 

I wish the NFHS would.