The Ultimate Free Throw situation

[fiasco]

A3 is fouled during an attempt for goal. The ball is mistakenly placed by your partner at the disposal of A1 at the free throw line. A1 shoots and misses.

Players and officials forget there should be two shots, and A2 rebounds the miss and makes a basket. After the ball goes in the basket but before it is at B’s disposal, the score table sounds the horn and tells the officials that A1 was entitled to another basket. They have awarded two points to team A. During this, you also realize that A3, not A1 is entitled to the free throw, and it is determined after discussing with your partner that A1 was deliberately deceptive in taking the free throw.

What do you do next?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by fiasco

A3 is fouled during an attempt for goal. The ball is mistakenly placed by your partner at the disposal of A1 at the free throw line. A1 shoots and misses.

Players and officials forget there should be two shots, and A2 rebounds the miss and makes a basket. After the ball goes in the basket but before it is at B’s disposal, the score table sounds the horn and tells the officials that A1 was entitled to another basket. They have awarded two points to team A. During this, you also realize that A3, not A1 is entitled to the free throw, and it is determined after discussing with your partner that A1 was deliberately deceptive in taking the free throw.

What do you do next?

Change my pants.

[jdw3018]

I'll give it a shot:

A2's basket counts.

Charge a technical foul to A1 for deliberately taking a FT to which he was not entitled.

Give A3 two FTs with the lane cleared.

B gets two technical foul FTs and the subsequent throw-in at the division line.

You and your partner(s) spend the rest of the game preparing for the a$$-chewing you should receive from your assignor.

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

I'll give it a shot:

A2's basket counts.

Charge a technical foul to A1 for deliberately taking a FT to which he was not entitled.

Give A3 two FTs with the lane cleared.

B gets two technical foul FTs and the subsequent throw-in at the division line.

You and your partner(s) spend the rest of the game preparing for the a$$-chewing you should receive from your assignor.

Bzzzzzzzt (well, except for the last part)

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by fiasco

Bzzzzzzzt (well, except for the last part)

Does that mean I'm right or wrong?

[Bad Zebra]

Originally Posted by fiasco

What do you do next?

Call Southwest Airlines.

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

Call Southwest Airlines.

You are now free to move about the playing court.

[jdw3018]

Point of clarification. Did the officials forget it was 2 shots and state 1? Or, did the officials state 2 shots and then it was played as 1?

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

Point of clarification. Did the officials forget it was 2 shots and state 1? Or, did the officials state 2 shots and then it was played as 1?

In this situation, it doesn't matter. In fact, I can't think of how it would matter in any situation if the officials have a collective brain fart and allow rebounding and scoring action to go on.

Doesn't matter what the officials indicated. Just matters what happened after the ball is released.

[jdw3018]

I'm not sure it matters either, other than if they stated 2 and it was just the players playing the ball and scoring, it could be waved off...but if everyone forgot and the play was played, then it's a failure to award a merited free throw CE situation and the score will count...still trying to figure out what was wrong w/ my original post then.

[jdmara]

Go to commercial break and ask Billy Packer what the correct call is!

-Josh

[Adam]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

I'll give it a shot:

A2's basket counts.

Charge a technical foul to A1 for deliberately taking a FT to which he was not entitled.

Give A3 two FTs with the lane cleared.

B gets two technical foul FTs and the subsequent throw-in at the division line.

You and your partner(s) spend the rest of the game preparing for the a$$-chewing you should receive from your assignor.

I've got this as correct. Only action during the free throw is canceled by rule, so A2's basket counts.

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I've got this as correct. Only action during the free throw is canceled by rule, so A2's basket counts.

I would think the same thing, except 2-10-4 states that the free throw shall be canceled. Note that it does NOT say that the successful free throw shall be canceled. It says the free throw period.

So, I have A3 attempting ONE free throw with the lane cleared.

The case book does not clarify this.

Thoughts?

[Adam]

Interesting; I think the purpose of the rule is to get the correct player to shoot both free throws at the correct hoop, I think the intent is clearly to only cancel the erroneously shot free throw.

I'll have A3 shoot 2 shots. Unless you want to apply this to a situation where everyone follows your partner to the wrong basket where the correct shooter takes a shot or two....

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Interesting; I think the purpose of the rule is to get the correct player to shoot both free throws at the correct hoop, I think the intent is clearly to only cancel the erroneously shot free throw.

I'll have A3 shoot 2 shots. Unless you want to apply this to a situation where everyone follows your partner to the wrong basket where the correct shooter takes a shot or two....

Your logic makes sense. I wish it were clarified in the case book.