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Chess Ref Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:11am

Double Foul
 
For whatever reason I have been reffing under the impression that calling a double foul is a bad call. My thinking has been along the lines that someone has always initiated the contact first. Well last night changed that thinking pretty quick.

Beevus and Butthead are doing the little post dance. I'm talking to them, more of a let them know I'm paying attention talk.Not much going on but enough that they have the majority of my attention. Up and down the court we go,several times, still not much actually happening but...
all of a sudden they both start banging on each other really hard. It needed to be addressed . I did, I called a double foul. Either the call cleaned it up or they got tired but either way it stopped.

Do any of you call double fouls and is it a call that you use regularly ?

JugglingReferee Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:14am

In 12 or 13 years I think I have called 4 or 5. It's been quite some time since I've had to use it, though.

I think the double foul is a great tool when it's warranted.

It sounds like you did the right thing. Nice job.

jritchie Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:23am

It really makes it easy when you call it, because it cleans up 2 turds not listening to you in the post and also it doesn't give either team an advantage because you go back to POI, and take the ball out and play ball. I love calling them when they are warranted. Really easy to clean everything up with this.

Scrapper1 Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:28am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chess Ref (Post 553018)
Beevus and Butthead are doing the little post dance. . .all of a sudden they both start banging on each other really hard. It needed to be addressed

Heh-heh. Heh-heh. You said "banging". Heh-heh.

http://blogs.psychologytoday.com/fil..._Butt-head.gif

And no, I don't use it often, but I have used it on very rare occasions. Probably 2 or 3 times in the last 10 years.

CoachP Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30am

Ohhhhhhhhh! BillyMac is so gonna jump off the wagon!!!:eek:

JugglingReferee Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:34am

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoachP (Post 553033)
Ohhhhhhhhh! BillyMac is so gonna jump off the wagon!!!:eek:

Actually, I think psychology tells us that either comments referring to a comment about someone jumping off the wagon, or merely a comment about jumping off the wagon are worse!

Scrapper1 Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:37am

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Originally Posted by CoachP (Post 553033)
Ohhhhhhhhh! BillyMac is so gonna jump off the wagon!!!:eek:

You have to admit, the original post was just begging for a picture!

doubleringer Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:38am

Obviously you try to get the first contact, but I see no problem with the double foul on occasion. When I have used it, I tend to go with it early in the game to set the tone of what we will allow in the post and what we will not. It does seem to clean things up in a hurry.

Back In The Saddle Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:51am

I have occasionally had to call a double foul. But I've never had to call it twice in the same game. A very effective tool IMO.

Freddy Tue Nov 25, 2008 11:53am

DF - Effective Tool
 
I agree with a previous comment. Though used sparingly, calling a justified double foul is an effective tool to quell a brewing situation.

mbyron Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:12pm

If you have two fouls but don't call a double foul, what's the alternative? A personal and a technical? Ignore the second due to the dead ball unless flagrant?

Back In The Saddle Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:34pm

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 553089)
If you have two fouls but don't call a double foul, what's the alternative? A personal and a technical? Ignore the second due to the dead ball unless flagrant?

An alternative is to call a regular personal foul on one of the knuckleheads, and make it clear to them both that the next one will be on the other knucklehead. I've used that approach before too, and it's been effective for me.

CoachP Tue Nov 25, 2008 02:45pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrapper1 (Post 553040)
You have to admit, the original post was just begging for a picture!

Yeah, BTW where IS BillyMac today???

M&M Guy Tue Nov 25, 2008 02:53pm

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Originally Posted by CoachP (Post 553144)
Yeah, BTW where IS BillyMac today???

Therapy?

Raymond Tue Nov 25, 2008 03:00pm

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Originally Posted by Scrapper1 (Post 553030)
Heh-heh. Heh-heh. You said "banging". Heh-heh.

http://blogs.psychologytoday.com/fil..._Butt-head.gif

And no, I don't use it often, but I have used it on very rare occasions. Probably 2 or 3 times in the last 10 years.


You've only posted 2 or 3 images?


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