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cdaref Tue Nov 25, 2008 04:40pm

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Originally Posted by Chess Ref (Post 553018)
For whatever reason I have been reffing under the impression that calling a double foul is a bad call. My thinking has been along the lines that someone has always initiated the contact first. Well last night changed that thinking pretty quick.

Beevus and Butthead are doing the little post dance. I'm talking to them, more of a let them know I'm paying attention talk.Not much going on but enough that they have the majority of my attention. Up and down the court we go,several times, still not much actually happening but...
all of a sudden they both start banging on each other really hard. It needed to be addressed . I did, I called a double foul. Either the call cleaned it up or they got tired but either way it stopped.

Do any of you call double fouls and is it a call that you use regularly ?

I dont use it alot, but that is pretty much exactly the circumstance where I use it. Thinking back to the times I have called it, I think I have always warned them at least once with a "knock it off both of you two". Next time down, same thing. Ring it up.

I dont know if this comment will be helpful, but like many things double fouls tend to call themselves. Its hard to quantify, and maybe I'll think about it more to see if I can put my finger on it, but I have always felt that the double foul was real clear when I called it. Maybe because I used to play the post. Its just a kind of play you dont see alot. You often see two people playing hard and posting up. You often see one push the other. But in my experience you rarely see both fouling the other and it is pretty easy to see and call. Maybe its just me. In my view, they kind of stick out like a sore thumb.

BillyMac Tue Nov 25, 2008 07:53pm

Eyes Wide Shut ...
 
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Originally Posted by CoachP (Post 553033)
Ohhhhhhhhh! BillyMac is so gonna jump off the wagon!!!

I'm keeping my eyes closed.

BillyMac Tue Nov 25, 2008 07:55pm

If I Played Hookey, Who Would Test The Water After You Flush ???
 
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Originally Posted by CoachP (Post 553144)
Yeah, BTW where IS BillyMac today???

Hey. Some of us have to work for a living.

BillyMac Tue Nov 25, 2008 07:56pm

I Go Back In February ...
 
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Originally Posted by M&M Guy (Post 553151)
Therapy?

That was last week.

BillyMac Tue Nov 25, 2008 08:14pm

Double Your Pleasure, Double Your Fun ...
 
Two seasons ago, I had a partner, a veteran, who calls a pretty good game, but doesn't pay too much attention to rules, or mechanics, ream me out at halftime for calling a double foul in the first half, and to never call a double foul in any of his games ever again. I filed that "constructive criticism" under, "When In Rome". These two kids were elbowing each other at the mid-post position. They didn't heed my warning to, "Knock it off". My double foul cleaned up that type of action for the rest of the game.

My philosophy is that if it will make a difference in the game, call it, but call it early in the game, and, although it's not as important, early in the season. I make sure to call at least one double foul a season during my scrimmages.

Ten of the seventy-five questions, that's 13%, on the 2008-09 IAABO Refresher Exam were about double fouls? I don't think that I've called ten double fouls in the past five years, from high school varsity, all the way down to third graders, in hundreds of games.

Nevadaref Wed Nov 26, 2008 01:08am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chess Ref (Post 553018)
For whatever reason I have been reffing under the impression that calling a double foul is a bad call. My thinking has been along the lines that someone has always initiated the contact first. Well last night changed that thinking pretty quick.

Beevus and Butthead are doing the little post dance. I'm talking to them, more of a let them know I'm paying attention talk.Not much going on but enough that they have the majority of my attention. Up and down the court we go,several times, still not much actually happening but...
all of a sudden they both start banging on each other really hard. It needed to be addressed . I did, I called a double foul. Either the call cleaned it up or they got tired but either way it stopped.

Do any of you call double fouls and is it a call that you use regularly ?

There was one called tonight in the North Carolina/Oregon game on ESPN.

What does that tell you? ;)

Raymond Wed Nov 26, 2008 08:30am

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 553258)
Two seasons ago, I had a partner, a veteran, who calls a pretty good game, but doesn't pay too much attention to rules, or mechanics, ream me out at halftime for calling a double foul in the first half, and to never call a double foul in any of his games ever again. I filed that "constructive criticism" under, "When In Rome".


What makes your partner the emperor?

tjones1 Wed Nov 26, 2008 01:31pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 553353)
What makes your partner the emperor?

Maybe he was working with Dr. Naismith. ;)

Adam Wed Nov 26, 2008 01:35pm

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Originally Posted by tjones1 (Post 553480)
Maybe he was working with Dr. Naismith. ;)

I'm thinking his partner should go here for some reading.

tjones1 Wed Nov 26, 2008 01:39pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 553482)
I'm thinking his partner should go here for some reading.

I agree.

Then again, if he didn't pay too much attention to rules maybe he didn't know how to penalize a double foul.


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