Double Foul
 

For whatever reason I have been reffing under the impression that calling a double foul is a bad call. My thinking has been along the lines that someone has always initiated the contact first. Well last night changed that thinking pretty quick.

Beevus and Butthead are doing the little post dance. I'm talking to them, more of a let them know I'm paying attention talk.Not much going on but enough that they have the majority of my attention. Up and down the court we go,several times, still not much actually happening but...
all of a sudden they both start banging on each other really hard. It needed to be addressed . I did, I called a double foul. Either the call cleaned it up or they got tired but either way it stopped.

Do any of you call double fouls and is it a call that you use regularly ?

In 12 or 13 years I think I have called 4 or 5. It's been quite some time since I've had to use it, though.

I think the double foul is a great tool when it's warranted.

It sounds like you did the right thing. Nice job.

It really makes it easy when you call it, because it cleans up 2 turds not listening to you in the post and also it doesn't give either team an advantage because you go back to POI, and take the ball out and play ball. I love calling them when they are warranted. Really easy to clean everything up with this.

Heh-heh. Heh-heh. You said "banging". Heh-heh.

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And no, I don't use it often, but I have used it on very rare occasions. Probably 2 or 3 times in the last 10 years.

Ohhhhhhhhh! BillyMac is so gonna jump off the wagon!!!:eek:

Actually, I think psychology tells us that either comments referring to a comment about someone jumping off the wagon, or merely a comment about jumping off the wagon are worse!

You have to admit, the original post was just begging for a picture!

Obviously you try to get the first contact, but I see no problem with the double foul on occasion. When I have used it, I tend to go with it early in the game to set the tone of what we will allow in the post and what we will not. It does seem to clean things up in a hurry.

I have occasionally had to call a double foul. But I've never had to call it twice in the same game. A very effective tool IMO.

DF - Effective Tool
 

I agree with a previous comment. Though used sparingly, calling a justified double foul is an effective tool to quell a brewing situation.

If you have two fouls but don't call a double foul, what's the alternative? A personal and a technical? Ignore the second due to the dead ball unless flagrant?

An alternative is to call a regular personal foul on one of the knuckleheads, and make it clear to them both that the next one will be on the other knucklehead. I've used that approach before too, and it's been effective for me.

Yeah, BTW where IS BillyMac today???

Therapy?

You've only posted 2 or 3 images?

I dont use it alot, but that is pretty much exactly the circumstance where I use it. Thinking back to the times I have called it, I think I have always warned them at least once with a "knock it off both of you two". Next time down, same thing. Ring it up.

I dont know if this comment will be helpful, but like many things double fouls tend to call themselves. Its hard to quantify, and maybe I'll think about it more to see if I can put my finger on it, but I have always felt that the double foul was real clear when I called it. Maybe because I used to play the post. Its just a kind of play you dont see alot. You often see two people playing hard and posting up. You often see one push the other. But in my experience you rarely see both fouling the other and it is pretty easy to see and call. Maybe its just me. In my view, they kind of stick out like a sore thumb.

Eyes Wide Shut ...
 

I'm keeping my eyes closed.

If I Played Hookey, Who Would Test The Water After You Flush ???
 

Hey. Some of us have to work for a living.

I Go Back In February ...
 

That was last week.

Double Your Pleasure, Double Your Fun ...
 

Two seasons ago, I had a partner, a veteran, who calls a pretty good game, but doesn't pay too much attention to rules, or mechanics, ream me out at halftime for calling a double foul in the first half, and to never call a double foul in any of his games ever again. I filed that "constructive criticism" under, "When In Rome". These two kids were elbowing each other at the mid-post position. They didn't heed my warning to, "Knock it off". My double foul cleaned up that type of action for the rest of the game.

My philosophy is that if it will make a difference in the game, call it, but call it early in the game, and, although it's not as important, early in the season. I make sure to call at least one double foul a season during my scrimmages.

Ten of the seventy-five questions, that's 13%, on the 2008-09 IAABO Refresher Exam were about double fouls? I don't think that I've called ten double fouls in the past five years, from high school varsity, all the way down to third graders, in hundreds of games.

There was one called tonight in the North Carolina/Oregon game on ESPN.

What does that tell you? ;)

What makes your partner the emperor?

Maybe he was working with Dr. Naismith. ;)

I'm thinking his partner should go here for some reading.

I agree.

Then again, if he didn't pay too much attention to rules maybe he didn't know how to penalize a double foul.