Inquiring minds part 2

[CoachP]

A1 on a spot throw in. A1 sets ball on the floor (oob, next to his feet) and wipes his hands off on his socks. B1 reaches across the "plane" and grabs the ball. Has B1 done anything wrong? Call, no call?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by CoachP

A1 on a spot throw in. A1 sets ball on the floor (oob, next to his feet) and wipes his hands off on his socks. B1 reaches across the "plane" and grabs the ball. Has B1 done anything wrong? Call, no call?

The defender may not break the imaginary plane during a throwin until the ball has been released on a throw-in pass. If the defender breaks the imaginary plane during a throwin before the ball has been released on a throw-in pass, the defender’s team will receive a team warning, or if the team has already been warned for one of the four delay situations, this action would result in a team technical foul. If the defender contacts the ball after breaking the imaginary plane, it is a player technical foul and a team warning will be recorded.

By setting the ball on the floor, A1 has, indeed, released the ball, however, I don't believe that there has been a throwin pass.

Has A1 done anything wrong?

[Back In The Saddle]

Oh good heavens, here we go again.

I'll tell you what, I solemnly swear not to get into any long-winded arguments about whether or not A1's action is a pass or not, if somebody promises to find A1 and ***** slap him into a coma for causing so much trouble while wiping his hands on his socks.

[jdmara]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

Oh good heavens, here we go again.

I'll tell you what, I solemnly swear not to get into any long-winded arguments about whether or not A1's action is a pass or not, if somebody promises to find A1 and ***** slap him into a coma for causing so much trouble while wiping his hands on his socks.

Agreed! And kick him while he is down as well!

-Josh

[Nevadaref]

The play is most similar to this. I would call a delay of game warning on Team B.

*7.5.1 SITUATION B:

Team A does not break the huddle after the second horn
for a 60-second time-out. The official puts the ball down at the designated spot
and begins the five-second count. The administering official is between four and
five on the count when Team B reaches over the boundary and grabs the ball.

RULING:

Delay-of-game warning on Team B for reaching across the plane. No
Team A member ever possessed the ball for the throw-in; therefore, a technical
foul would not be assessed. (9-2 Penalty 3)

[Bad Zebra]

I agree with the call for DELAY, but what about the action of placing the ball on the floor? I don't think your Sit. applies in that regard. Any argument for a throw in violation by A1 for his action, thus making the reach across irrelevant? Is that what BITS is referring to?

I wish these minds would stop inquiring. It IS the weekend. These make my head hurt.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

7.5.1 SITUATION B

Great citation Nevadaref. I thought that this would end the thread until I read Bad Zebra's post after yours. In the citation, it states that, "No Team A member ever possessed the ball for the throw-in; therefore, a technical foul would not be assessed". However, in the original post case, the Team A player did have the ball at his disposal for a throwin. Close, but no cigar, yet.

Great citation, followed by a great followup question. No off topic posts, no images, no name calling, no inside jokes. I think that this is what the moderators were asking for several weeks ago, and this is what Scrapper1 predicted would happen.

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