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Old Sun Nov 16, 2008, 10:48am
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Varsity scrimmage....I got a textbook player control foul. Coach then insists that defense cannot move or its "automatic foul" on defender. I shrug and think maybe I could coach varsity basketball....
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Old Sun Nov 16, 2008, 11:07am
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Old Sun Nov 16, 2008, 11:16am
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A10 is dribbling the ball in the backcourt. A50 is in the lane. HEY THAT's THREE SECONDS!
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Old Sun Nov 16, 2008, 11:29am
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A1, while holding the ball, jumps in the air and lands holding the ball. Easy travel call. Coach says "How is that a travel".
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Old Sun Nov 16, 2008, 12:03pm
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A1, while holding the ball, jumps in the air and lands holding the ball. Easy travel call. Coach says "How is that a travel".
The traveling rule is one of the most misunderstood rules in basketball. To start a dribble, the ball must be released before the pivot foot is lifted. On a pass or a shot, the pivot foot may be lifted, but may not return to the floor before the ball is released. A player may slide on the floor while trying to secure a loose ball until that player’s momentum stops. At that point that player cannot attempt to get up or rollover. A player securing a ball while on the floor cannot attempt to stand up unless that player starts a dribble. A player in this situation may also pass, shoot, or call a timeout. If the player is flat on his or her back, that player may sit up without violating.

The shooter can retrieve his or her own airball, if the referee considers it to be a shot attempt. The release ends team control. It is not a violation for that player to start another dribble at that point. When an airborne player keeps control of an attempted shot that is blocked and is unable to release the ball and returns to the floor with it, that player has not traveled; it is a held ball. If, in this situation, the shooter releases the ball, then this is simply a blocked shot and play continues. When an airborne player tries for goal, sees that the try will be blocked, purposely drops the ball, and picks up the ball after it hits the floor, that player has traveled by starting a dribble with the pivot foot off the floor, whether, or not, the defensive player touches the ball in the block attempt.
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A10 is dribbling the ball in the backcourt. A50 is in the lane. HEY THAT's THREE SECONDS!
The intent of the three-second rule is to not allow an offensive player to gain an advantage. There is no three-second count between the release of a shot and the control of a rebound, at which time a new count starts. There is no three-second count during a throwin. There is no three-second count while the ball is in the backcourt. There is a three-second count during an interrupted dribble. Allowance shall be made for a player who, having been in the restricted area for less than three seconds, dribbles in or moves immediately to try for goal.
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Old Mon Nov 17, 2008, 06:17pm
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A10 is dribbling the ball in the backcourt. A50 is in the lane. HEY THAT's THREE SECONDS!
I cant decide if this is intentionally or unintentionally the funniest post I have seen in a while... A10 and A50. That is great (of course you probably are just referring to their jersey numbers, but I still think A50 is hillarious).
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I cant decide if this is intentionally or unintentionally the funniest post I have seen in a while... A10 and A50. That is great (of course you probably are just referring to their jersey numbers, but I still think A50 is hillarious).
Just finished my IAABO Refresher Exam. One question was about A6, and A7, having identical numbers. They're not identical, they're illegal. Duh.
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Old Tue Nov 18, 2008, 01:16am
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A10 is dribbling the ball in the backcourt. A50 is in the lane. HEY THAT's THREE SECONDS!
A3 is OOB with the ball for a throw-in from the end line adjacent to the frontcourt. A5 is in the lane. The count gets to 4 and the HC for Team B is hollering for three seconds. I'm the C standing right next to him. I say, "Can we let them get the ball inbounds first?"

Coach turns to me and asks, "Is that the rule?"
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I got a textbook player control foul. Coach then insists that defense cannot move or its "automatic foul" on defender.
A defensive player does not have to remain stationary to take a charge. A defender may turn away or duck to absorb contact, provided he or she has already established legal guarding position, which is both feet on the playing court and facing the opponent. The defender can always move backwards or sideways to maintain a legal guarding position and may even have one or both feet off the playing court when contact occurs. That player may legally rise vertically. If the defender is moving forward, then the contact is caused by the defender, which is a blocking foul.
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Old Sun Nov 16, 2008, 12:09pm
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I got a textbook player control foul. Coach then insists that defense cannot move or its "automatic foul" on defender.
Let's see. I've got personal, common, intentional, flagrant, technical, direct, indirect, player control, team control, double, false double, simultaneous, multiple, false multiple, team, and unsporting fouls. I can't seem to find automatic foul anywhere in Rule 4 Definitions. Is it hidden somewhere in Rule 10 Fouls and Penalties?
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Old Tue Nov 18, 2008, 01:18am
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Varsity scrimmage....I got a textbook player control foul. Coach then insists that defense cannot move or its "automatic foul" on defender. I shrug and think maybe I could coach varsity basketball....
Last Monday, after calling a PC foul. I got the "what, the defender wasn't even set."

Yep, you're right.... so what!?
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Old Tue Nov 18, 2008, 01:27am
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Funniest thing that I saw on a court was this summer in Vegas.

I was in the first row observing a game that a buddy was working. He is the Trail and A1 is trapped by B1 and B2 deep in the corner of his backcourt. A1 tries to squeeze by down the sideline and B2 cuts him off. There is bang-bang play with the ball squirting OOB.
The Trail strongly calls it "White." B2, wearing the blue shirt, is dismayed with the decision and asks the official if he can double check.
The Trail tells the kid, "Sure," pops the whistle back into his mouth and blows it. He again points in the same direction and says, "White."

Now he turns back to the kid and says, "Yep, that's what I thought."

I was laughing so hard I almost fell out of the bleachers.
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