I need some game talk!!!

[eyezen]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Our local board requires us to carry an extra whistle in our pocket to help keep track of the possession arrow, which is what I use my old Acmes for.

You're kidding, right???

I mean, no matter your personal philosophy on the subject, for an association to REQUIRE such a thing is a little OAOA don't you think?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by eyezen

You're kidding, right???

I would prefer not to, but it's expected by my evaluators. I didn't mind doing it for the first couple of years after we switched from jump balls to alternating possession. The crew at the table was unfamiliar with the rules, and mechanics, of switching the arrow, and mistakes were often made, and easily corrected, with the memory aid of switching the whistle in our pocket to coincide with the arrow. Now, most table crews are very familiar with the rules, and mechanics, of the alternating possession procedure, and they seldom make mistakes, so the whistles seem kind of redundant. I never thought we would use this mechanic for such a long time.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I would prefer not to, but it's expected by my evaluators. I didn't mind doing it for the first couple of years after we switched from jump balls to alternating possession. The crew at the table was unfamiliar with the rules, and mechanics, of switching the arrow, and mistakes were often made, and easily corrected, with the memory aid of switching the whistle in our pocket to coincide with the arrow. Now, most table crews are very familiar with the rules, and mechanics, of the alternating possession procedure, and they seldom make mistakes, so the whistles seem kind of redundant. I never thought we would use this mechanic for such a long time.

Do your evaluators also insist that you put a different color ring on your fingers to keep track of the team fouls?

I can't see why not, that's logically the same as what they are making you do with the AP arrow. Why would they trust the table on one issue and not on another?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Do your evaluators also insist that you put a different color ring on your fingers to keep track of the team fouls?

That's exactly what I humorously thought when these mechanics were first introduced to us many, many years ago. It's not so funny any more.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I would prefer not to, but it's expected by my evaluators. I didn't mind doing it for the first couple of years after we switched from jump balls to alternating possession. The crew at the table was unfamiliar with the rules, and mechanics, of switching the arrow, and mistakes were often made, and easily corrected, with the memory aid of switching the whistle in our pocket to coincide with the arrow. Now, most table crews are very familiar with the rules, and mechanics, of the alternating possession procedure, and they seldom make mistakes, so the whistles seem kind of redundant. I never thought we would use this mechanic for such a long time.

Do you actually use it? Or just leave it in your pocket?

[OHBBREF]

there is a gizmo you can buy to put on your Fox 40 whistles that will help you with ALt possesion it flips back and forth Light/dark.
It is just like the pocket whistle if you remember to do it it works great.

[Adam]

ugh!

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by OHBBREF

there is a gizmo you can buy to put on your Fox 40 whistles that will help you with ALt possesion it flips back and forth Light/dark.
It is just like the pocket whistle if you remember to do it it works great.

It alters the sound of the Fox40. While it is a neat gizmo, it's just easier for me to remember which way we are going and to confirm it when the arrow is suppose to change.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by tjones1

It alters the sound of the Fox40. While it is a neat gizmo, it's just easier for me to remember which way we are going and to confirm it when the arrow is suppose to change.

[OHBBREF]

Originally Posted by tjones1

It alters the sound of the Fox40. While it is a neat gizmo, it's just easier for me to remember which way we are going and to confirm it when the arrow is suppose to change.

I have never used it nor seen anyone who has
I consider knowing the AP arrow, score, Time, and Shot clock information as a part on game managment, and keeping my head in the game at all times.

It is a great thing when there is an issue and the crew can quickly say the shot clock should read 19 seconds, when it has accidentally been re set or the calling official comes out of the scrum with a jump ball and direction rather than having to check with the table - this awarness on the floor is one of the things I worked on all summer and it has been an advantage already in the four games I have worked several times.

When you have these little items under control it is one less thing you have to worry about going wrong in a game, it gives those there (correctly) the impression you are on top of things and that can keep a coach off you back on a borderline call because they know you are in the game.

[Adam]

Well stated, and using the gizmo or rubber band or whistle in the pocket or (insert crutch here) only diminishes the professional appearance.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Do you actually use it? Or just leave it in your pocket?

We've been taught, and continue to be taught, to switch the whistle from pocket to pocket, since 1985, when the alternating possession procedure first started. You would think that the table crews could learn the proper procedure in twenty-three years. We have table crew members who have never, in their entire life, seen more than one jump ball in a four period game, and have never attended a basketball game where there wasn't an arrow at the table.

And here's another opportunity for me to suggest two minor changes in the jump ball procedure. First, do away with the jump ball that starts the game. Second, we do away with the jump ball that starts the extra period. That's all. Just two little changes. Let's start the game with a coin toss, just like in football, and futball. I'll bring the coin. The loser of the toss gets to keep the coin, so everybody walks away happy.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by eyezen

You're kidding, right???

I mean, no matter your personal philosophy on the subject, for an association to REQUIRE such a thing is a little OAOA don't you think?

Then you need a rubber band on your wrist to remind yourself to switch the whistle to the correct pocket, then part your hair in the right direction facing the table to remind yourself which way the rubber............never mind.