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Scrapper1 Thu Nov 13, 2008 03:14pm
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Originally Posted by M&M Guy (Post 550370)
Do I have that right, Scrappy?
Seems right to me.

Adam Thu Nov 13, 2008 03:59pm
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Originally Posted by M&M Guy (Post 550370)
Well, if there was no airborne shooter, then B1 could foul A1 after the shot is released, and before A1 lands, and it would have to be considered a common foul, not a shooting foul. But, because A1 is still an airborne shooter, they would still shoot FT(s).

Do I have that right, Scrappy?
What if the foul was "on the floor?" :D

M&M Guy Thu Nov 13, 2008 04:21pm
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 550385)
What if the foul was "on the floor?" :D
Then charge the floor with the foul, and move on with the game.

You kill me, Snaqs.

Adam Thu Nov 13, 2008 04:24pm
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Originally Posted by M&M Guy (Post 550390)
Then charge the floor with the foul, and move on with the game.

You kill me, Snaqs.
You gonna call that on the floor? It wasn't moving (except for Padgett's cruise ship, which wasn't involved with this play).

Go ahead and make that call. It's your funeral.

M&M Guy Thu Nov 13, 2008 04:32pm
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 550391)
You gonna call that on the floor? It wasn't moving (except for Padgett's cruise ship, which wasn't involved with this play).

Go ahead and make that call. It's your funeral.
Hey, part of the floor is OOB, so since it doesn't have legal position, it can be stationary and still get called for the foul.

Or so I'm told.

Adam Thu Nov 13, 2008 04:36pm
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Originally Posted by M&M Guy (Post 550393)
Hey, part of the floor is OOB, so since it doesn't have legal position, it can be stationary and still get called for the foul.

Or so I'm told.
Oh boy, here we go....

Scrapper1 Thu Nov 13, 2008 04:40pm
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 550391)
It's your funeral.
Uh-oh.

chartrusepengui Thu Nov 13, 2008 04:54pm
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Hey, part of the floor is OOB, so since it doesn't have legal position, it can be stationary and still get called for the foul.
I disagree - since part of the floor is OOB - it's just a violation occurring prior to any foul

M&M Guy Thu Nov 13, 2008 04:54pm
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M&M Guy Thu Nov 13, 2008 04:57pm
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Originally Posted by chartrusepengui (Post 550401)
I disagree - since part of the floor is OOB - it's just a violation occurring prior to any foul
Ah, but it is only a violation if the floor is OOB for an unauthorized reason. Isn't the floor allowed to be OOB? After all, a player would not have any support on a throw-in otherwise.

Adam Thu Nov 13, 2008 05:00pm
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Originally Posted by M&M Guy (Post 550405)
Ah, but it is only a violation if the floor is OOB for an unauthorized reason. Isn't the floor allowed to be OOB? After all, a player would not have any support on a throw-in otherwise.
I still say as long as it's not moving, it can't be called for a foul.

As long as the reason is authorized, and I think "by design" is an authorized reason, it can't be called for a violation.

M&M Guy Thu Nov 13, 2008 05:06pm
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 550410)
I still say as long as it's not moving, it can't be called for a foul.
Normally I would agree with you, but there were some that were pretty adamant about this position.

Now, perhaps in CA with their numerous earthquakes, this isn't really an issue?

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 550410)
As long as the reason is authorized, and I think "by design" is an authorized reason, it can't be called for a violation.
Agreed.

just another ref Thu Nov 13, 2008 06:26pm
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Originally Posted by M&M Guy (Post 550405)
Ah, but it is only a violation if the floor is OOB for an unauthorized reason.

Something wrong with the building code?

Back In The Saddle Thu Nov 13, 2008 07:35pm
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Originally Posted by M&M Guy (Post 550405)
Ah, but it is only a violation if the floor is OOB for an unauthorized reason. Isn't the floor allowed to be OOB? After all, a player would not have any support on a throw-in otherwise.
If you can't be an athlete, at least be an athletic supporter. ;)

The floor must extend at least 2 inches OOB on all four sides, otherwise you'd have no OOB lines. And with no OOB lines, what would we have to argue about? :eek:


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