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RANCHMAN Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:20am

Pregame conversation with coaches
 
Last season I made the decision to not only introduce myself, but mention two subjects I thought were important to emphasize to the head coaches. This might have been a factor which lowered the technical’s I had to charge to coaches to three all season. My conversation went like this after a hand shake, and introductions” Coach I just wanted to mention a couple of things I want you to help me with this evening, First of all when you call a timeout would you let us know if you want a thirty second or full time out. We have a hard time reading minds (smile). Also you do realize the UIL does have a policy regarding ethical behavior, so I hope I can count on you to show good ethical behavior and sportsmanship in front of your kids(which they all would say yes). Just understand that the only two people in this stadium tonight that could care less who wins or loses is myself, and my co-official. Best of luck Coach”. This conversation took all of thirty seconds, so taking up time would not be an issue. Just for reference this pertains to High School, and Jr. High level games. What I wanted to ask other members of the forum is what you say to the coaches before the game if anything. Thank you for your input, it is appreciated.

ILRef80 Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:25am

I try to keep my pregame brief. This is what I ask the coaches:

1) Players properly equipped
2) Let us know if they want a 30 or full when they request a timeout
3) Have the players ready to go at the second horn so we can keep a good flow to the game.

That's really about it. I've thought about mentioning sportsmanship to them, but didn't want it to seem like overkill since I mention it to the players as well. I'm interested in what others will have to say...

jritchie Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:30am

In Kentucky, we ask if they are properly equipped and then have to read "The Card". It talks about sportsmanship and things like that, totally ridiculous that they have us do this. They think it cuts down on the unsportsmanlike conduct if they hear it I guess. Yeah Right!

JS 20 Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:33am

I have 4 points I hit:

1) Sportsmanship thing we're required to read by the state assoc

2) Court markings--ask visitors if they have any questions and then seguey into the coach's box markings and ask the coaches to coach from there

3) Ask coaches if everyone is properly equipped and if there are any injuries we need to know about

4) Tell the captains we may ask them for help on the court and they should be the spokesperson if the team has questions

co2ice Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:38am

I never tell a coach that me and my partner could careless who wins. I think that sounds as if we dont care, I'd rather say "coach, we'll work hard and do our best..... good luck to you and your team." To me it sounds much better and conveys the attitude we're ready to work! But thats just me.

Scrapper1 Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:52am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JS 20 (Post 547131)
I have 5 points I hit:

1) Sportsmanship thing we're required to read by the state assoc

2) Court markings--ask visitors if they have any questions and then seguey into the coach's box markings and ask the coaches to coach from there

3) Ask coaches if everyone is properly equipped and if there are any injuries we need to know about

4) Tell the captains we may ask them for help on the court and they should be the spokesperson if the team has questions

Is this one of those binary-type jokes that only the math geeks get? :confused:

JS 20 Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:54am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrapper1 (Post 547146)
Is this one of those binary-type jokes that only the math geeks get? :confused:

No, it's one of those typos someone else caught :D

fullor30 Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:10pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by RANCHMAN (Post 547126)
Last season I made the decision to not only introduce myself, but mention two subjects I thought were important to emphasize to the head coaches. This might have been a factor which lowered the technical’s I had to charge to coaches to three all season. My conversation went like this after a hand shake, and introductions” Coach I just wanted to mention a couple of things I want you to help me with this evening, First of all when you call a timeout would you let us know if you want a thirty second or full time out. We have a hard time reading minds (smile). Also you do realize the UIL does have a policy regarding ethical behavior, so I hope I can count on you to show good ethical behavior and sportsmanship in front of your kids(which they all would say yes). Just understand that the only two people in this stadium tonight that could care less who wins or loses is myself, and my co-official. Best of luck Coach”. This conversation took all of thirty seconds, so taking up time would not be an issue. Just for reference this pertains to High School, and Jr. High level games. What I wanted to ask other members of the forum is what you say to the coaches before the game if anything. Thank you for your input, it is appreciated.


Personally, I'd lose the 'we have trouble reading minds line' Just me.

RANCHMAN Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:17pm

co2ice-- I never tell a coach that me and my partner could careless who wins. I think that sounds as if we dont care, I'd rather say "coach, we'll work hard and do our best..... good luck to you and your team." To me it sounds much better and conveys the attitude we're ready to work! But thats just me.


co2ice Thank you for your input....your statement does sound much better, so I am going to start using it. Thank you for your help!!

doubleringer Thu Oct 30, 2008 01:20pm

Keep it short because they aren't listening. Topics I cover;

court markings
sportsmanship
have fun

That's about it. My sportsmanship talk is always the same. I say, "you are the captains and coaches for your schools. We look to you to be the models of sporting behavior to everyone in the gym. Please do a nice job of that."

I will say, that I find it important to have pregame meetings at all levels. I was just as guilty as everyone else of skipping pregames at the lower levels when I worked them, but they should be done.

Texref Thu Oct 30, 2008 01:24pm

Short quick and to the point
 
Coach, my name is Texref, how is it going tonight? Good. All of your players are leagally equipped? Good. You will abide by the sportsmanship guidelines? Good. Good luck tonight!

I know that some will say we shouldn't say "good luck," but that is what I say.

bob jenkins Thu Oct 30, 2008 01:34pm

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Originally Posted by doubleringer (Post 547242)
Keep it short because they aren't listening. Topics I cover;

court markings

Unless this is in the "back gym" that's also used for floor hockey, badminton, volley ball, indoor soccer, etc. and all the lines are the same color, there's no need to cover floor markings.

Rufus Thu Oct 30, 2008 01:41pm

We were informed at out association meeting the other night that our state coordinator wants us to ask, and get a verbal "Yes" response, to:
  • Coaches, are your players properly equiped?
  • Coaches, are you and your players prepared to display good sportsmanship at all time?
This is my second year in the association after a long break from officiating and it was the first time hearing that they wanted a verbal answer to those questions. I ask these questions anway so it's no big deal.

The only other one I'm adding this year, on advice from some of the varsity folks, is:

Coaches, we'll try to answer your questions tonight but are not responding to comments.

OHBBREF Thu Oct 30, 2008 01:42pm

Brief very Brief
Captains
court markings
proper equipment
we play on the second horn
we may ask your help to address issues before we have to address them

Coaches
proper equipment
We play on the second horn
coaches box and decourum (NCAA)

Good luck!

rwest Thu Oct 30, 2008 04:01pm

You must be a member of....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 547258)
We were informed at out association meeting the other night that our state coordinator wants us to ask, and get a verbal "Yes" response, to:
  • Coaches, are your players properly equiped?
  • Coaches, are you and your players prepared to display good sportsmanship at all time?
This is my second year in the association after a long break from officiating and it was the first time hearing that they wanted a verbal answer to those questions. I ask these questions anway so it's no big deal.

The only other one I'm adding this year, on advice from some of the varsity folks, is:

Coaches, we'll try to answer your questions tonight but are not responding to comments.


MCBOA. I've heard that a few times this year at our meetings.


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