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Back In The Saddle Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:10am

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 545274)
Quote:"Always listen to Bob." ;)

I would agree. But sometimes he's a man of too few words. ;)

bob jenkins Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:44am

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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle (Post 545459)
I would agree. But sometimes he's a man of too few words. ;)


Two secrets to success:

1) Don't tell everything you know.

M&M Guy Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:53am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 545471)
Two secrets to success:

1) Don't tell everything you know.

That's awful binary of you.

tjones1 Fri Oct 24, 2008 11:07am

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Originally Posted by M&M Guy (Post 545475)
That's awful binary of you.

When are we going to start talking about signed binary numbers!?

You know...

3-bit
-2 is 110

-or-

4-bit
-2 is 1110 :D

Scrapper1 Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:09pm

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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle (Post 545145)
NFHS 9-1 Penalties: 4. If there is a violation first by the free-thrower's opponent followed by the free thrower or a teammate:
c. If a violation by the free thrower follows disconcertion by an opponent, a substitute free throw shall be awarded.

I just thought it was interesting that ANY violation that follows disconcertion is ignored; even if the second violation can't reasonably be "blamed" on the disconcertion.

Disconcertion -> Early entry = Replacement free throw.

Seems like it should be a double violation, but it's not.

JugglingReferee Sat Oct 25, 2008 06:32am

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Originally Posted by tjones1 (Post 545487)
When are we going to start talking about signed binary numbers!?

You know...

3-bit
-2 is 110

-or-

4-bit
-2 is 1110 :D

One's complemt or two's complement? ;)

Back In The Saddle Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:31am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 545471)
Two secrets to success:

1) Don't tell everything you know.

Good thing I don't drink coffee in the morning; I'd need a new monitor. :D

Thanks for the laugh!

Back In The Saddle Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:40am

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Originally Posted by Scrapper1 (Post 545678)
I just thought it was interesting that ANY violation that follows disconcertion is ignored; even if the second violation can't reasonably be "blamed" on the disconcertion.

Disconcertion -> Early entry = Replacement free throw.

Seems like it should be a double violation, but it's not.

I guess I was reading it wrong. I was reading simultaneous violation as well (or double violation in NCAA). Or am I? penalty "c" only says "a substitute free throw shall be awarded". That indicates that both penalties are enforced, which some how I managed to get hung up on. And yeah, I'm reading it the way you are now: any violation by the thrower following disconcertion by the opponent, no matter how unrelated the two may seem, results in a new free throw. "Shall."

But then, you still have to exercise judgment in determining whether it was disconcertion or not. And the word disconcert implies a direct cause and effect relationship. So maybe it really is not as black and white as it reads. :confused:

Back In The Saddle Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:43am

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Originally Posted by M&M Guy (Post 545475)
That's awful binary of you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjones1 (Post 545487)
When are we going to start talking about signed binary numbers!?

You know...

3-bit
-2 is 110

-or-

4-bit
-2 is 1110 :D

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 545708)
One's complemt or two's complement? ;)

Man there are a lot of geeks here! :D

Note to Tony and the Mods: I didn't start this one ;)

tjones1 Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:31am

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 545708)
One's complemt or two's complement? ;)


Two's.


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