NBA Rule?

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Since we're getting closer to the start of the season, I'll go ahead and say it.

Please don't. It's irrelevant. It's not like "over the back", which perpetuates a gross misunderstanding of the rules. Does it really make any difference whether the coach "requests" it and we grant it or the coach "calls" it and we grant it? Either way, he's not getting it till we grant it. There's no misunderstanding about that.

[LDUB]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Please don't. It's irrelevant. It's not like "over the back", which perpetuates a gross misunderstanding of the rules. Does it really make any difference whether the coach "requests" it and we grant it or the coach "calls" it and we grant it? Either way, he's not getting it till we grant it. There's no misunderstanding about that.

I agree. The coach can call, yell, say, signal, request....a timeout. Unless someone says the coach granted himself a timeout then there shouldn't be a problem.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by LDUB

Unless someone says the coach granted himself a timeout then there shouldn't be a problem.

I agree. I don't mind nit-picking about some of the language in the rules, or not in the rules, like "over the back", "reaching in", "moving screen, "basketball interference" versus "goal tending", nor do I mind some of the more literate Forum members clearing up some spelling, or grammar problems, but this "call", or "request", debate has outlived its usefulness, and has gone on for way too long. Lets' just all agree that a coach, or player, if the ball is in control or at the disposal of a player of his/her team, or the ball is dead, unless replacement of a disqualified, or injured player(s), or a player directed to leave the game is pending, and a substitute(s) is available and required, can call a time out, request a time out, or call to request a time out, that may, or may not, be granted by the official depending on the situation.

Furthermore, the NFHS uses language that includes "call a time out" in its own casebook:

4.44.5 Situation B: A1 dives for a loose ball and slides after gaining control. A1 is in a position either on his/her back or stomach. What can A1 do without violating? Ruling: A1 may pass, shoot, start a dribble or call a time-out. Once A1 has the ball and is no longer sliding, he/she may not roll over. If flat on his/her back, A1 may sit up without violating. Any attempt to get to the feet is traveling unless A1 is dribbling. It is also traveling if A1 puts the ball on the floor, then rises and is first to touch the ball. (4-44-5b)

Please note that the case book play does not state "request a timeout", nor does it say that the timeout is automatically granted.

[Adam]

It kind of reminds me of something, now what is it?

Oh yeah, the debate over whether you say "take off the earrings if you want to play" or "you can't play with the earrings."

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

It kind of reminds me of something, now what is it? Oh yeah, the debate over whether you say "take off the earrings if you want to play" or "you can't play with the earrings."

Touché.

[Adam]

Just needling, Billy.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Just needling, Billy.

And deserving it.

In fencing, touché is used as an acknowledgments of a hit, called out by the fencer who is hit. A referee can call out touché to refer to a touch being called, for example, the French call for "no point" is "pas de touché".

The word touché is often used in popular culture and general conversation, for example, in an argument or debate. If one person presents an argument and another delivers a clever or apt response, the first person may respond with "touché" as a way of acknowledging a good response.

Or, I can take this in a whole new direction.