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Old Wed May 01, 2002, 12:47pm
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I started out thinking all false, then looked a little closer, in some cases wrongly, but I don't believe in all of them that is true. I blew the roll over and forgot the foul on A is not same as violation (a stupid distinction in my book, but there just the same).

Regarding knocking a player into the bleachers, gotta see it. We usually play on courts where the separation between sidelines and bleachers is not much. The sitch says B is going for ball, so it can't be an intentional foul as I read this. That leaves flagrant or common. This is not a definite in my book either way. We have a lot of hard contact due mainly to speed of play, and rarely see the flagrant. The situation does not say that the defender was playing the player, but the ball.

As for the extending arm, I know that if you extend an arm to protect ball and initiate contact (and obtain advantage) it is PC, if defender goes through the arm with body while making a steal it is probably just incidental. In this sitch we have an arm where it has no right to be being hacked. I saw (and continue to see) this as somewhat different.
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