NO Mark, as i stated, i havn't granted the TO. To me granting the TO means i blew the whistle. In my examples i havn't Beeped.

I have the reputation for having the "fastest whistle in the West". I make Steve Javhe (sp?) look like a slowpoke.

Ya' snooze, ya' lose. ;)

Steve doesn't have a quick whistle. He would just as soon T you as look at you. Which is a good thing. Steve Javie-sp-? is my hero. Now that i say that i guess i should learn how to spell his name. :)

Mick, Obviously there's no rule for the "not grant". I certainly don't have a problem with granting the TO in my 1st example. Now, I ask you, are you going to grant the TO in my 2nd example? [/QUOTE]

Bart,
That looks like a HTBT sitch.
The question in my mind would be, "Did I hear the request, and all that other conversation?" Because, if the other Coach heard it, I had better have a ready answer to that question.
We're not to far apart on this. If you're my partner, whatever you do works for me.
mick

OK, i can live with what you are saying. HTBT.

In order to not give away the answers, let me just say this as my answer:

Travelling quiz.

QED

Well geeze, thanks.

Quote:

As for Tony's five bucks - have him take a cookie out of petty cash.

Seems I've read this before on that "other" board. Can't
seem to remember who...think...think... ;)

So, why doesn't the shooter get one shot for the made basket and then the two shots + the ball for the intentional?

Because the foul is an intentional foul and the penalty
for an intentional foul is 2 shots and the ball at the
spot of the foul.

Where is there a technical foul in #14?

So, why doesn't the shooter get one shot for the made basket and then the two shots + the ball for the intentional?

Because this isn't a common foul.

As an intentional personal foul, the penalty is two shots plus ball (let's not complicate it with a missed 3-pt attempt). You never penalize a single foul more than once or in more than one way.

That of course, brings up the coveted ten-point play. How does this work, you ask?

A1 puts up a 3pt attempt.
On the shot, B1 intentionally fouls A1.
A1's shot is good - THREE POINTS
Referee reports shot good, foul, and two FT's.
B's coach earns a technical foul - make that four FT's.
A1 makes his two FT's - FIVE POINTS
A2 makes the two T FT's - SEVEN POINTS
A2 inbounds to A1, who immediately makes another 3pt'er. - TEN POINTS.

:D

Mark Dexter answered this above, but another way of thinking of it is that there is just one foul committed, not two - so you administer the penalty for that one foul. Since it is intentional, you administer the penalty for an intentional foul, just as Mark described.

Besides, as Judge Judy would say - THAT'S THE RULE!

I know what you're implying. If you research properly, you'll see that I first said that at least a year ago. I told you I read some of his posts and a few of them seem to copy my patterns and quotes. You'll probably see more of that as time goes by.

I don't know whether I should be flattered or angry. I wish he'd get his own material.

Let me tell you exactly how I feel about it!! Groucho,Zeppo,Harpo,Chico & Gummo--wasn't there one more briefly somewhere along the line?
This is waaaaay more important than Bob's true identity.
Btw,my original guess was that it was MTD Sr.:D