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Smitty Thu Aug 21, 2008 04:46pm

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Originally Posted by Smitty
Out of sheer curiosity, mu4scott, what level do you officiate?

Evidently I'm not going to get an answer.

Adam Thu Aug 21, 2008 04:48pm

I'm still holding out....

Tio Thu Aug 21, 2008 04:55pm

Home vs. Visitor exists and is something we need to be aware of....... not use to assist in judgement.

I realize I made some broad generalizations in prior posts.

just another ref Thu Aug 21, 2008 05:05pm

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Originally Posted by Tio
Home vs. Visitor exists and is something we need to be aware of....... not use to assist in judgement.


What do you mean when you say "be aware of" ?

Tio Thu Aug 21, 2008 05:14pm

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Originally Posted by just another ref
What do you mean when you say "be aware of" ?

Game awareness.

JRutledge Thu Aug 21, 2008 05:18pm

Game awareness is about knowing the situation in the game. It does not mean changing the basic fundamental things about what you were doing. If I know a coach has a stick up his behind, I might address him differently. But I am still going to call what I feel I need to and work my game. I am not going to sacrifice my judgment on a couple of plays to make a coach happy. They are never happy anyway. I really do not see why so many worry about it.

Peace

Tio Thu Aug 21, 2008 05:27pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge
Game awareness is about knowing the situation in the game. It does not mean changing the basic fundamental things about what you were doing. If I know a coach has a stick up his behind, I might address him differently. But I am still going to call what I feel I need to and work my game. I am not going to sacrifice my judgment on a couple of plays to make a coach happy. They are never happy anyway. I really do not see why so many worry about it.

Peace

I agree. When we start letting outside factors influence our Judgement we run into trouble. Coaches do have input in the evaluation process in a lot of areas and I think some officials are too worried about likability. Which all coaches hate us anyway even though they may be cordial to our face. I have found that if you communicate well with the benches and work hard, the saner coaches will recognize and respect that. There are some crazies that probably should be in a mental asylum.

just another ref Thu Aug 21, 2008 05:34pm

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Originally Posted by Tio
Game awareness.

So, a part of your game awareness is to be cognizant of which team is home and which team is visitor because.......??

Jurassic Referee Thu Aug 21, 2008 05:50pm

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Originally Posted by Tio
I agree. When we start letting outside factors influence our Judgement we run into trouble.

Then why are you insisting that we have to be <b>aware</b> of who the home and the visitors are?:confused:

You're confusing the hell outa me with these contradictory statements, Tio.

Tio Thu Aug 21, 2008 05:58pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Then why are you insisting that we have to be <b>aware</b> of who the home and the visitors are?:confused:

You're confusing the hell outa me with these contradictory statements, Tio.

It is clear I cannot express my point to you and Justanotherref. Listen to the Welmer clip...... the whole point of this conversation. I don't mind the fact that I agree with his philosophy. Go ahead and formulate your own opinion and if you don't agree with me that is fine.

just another ref Thu Aug 21, 2008 06:13pm

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Originally Posted by Tio
It is clear I cannot express my point to you and Justanotherref. Listen to the Welmer clip...... the whole point of this conversation. I don't mind the fact that I agree with his philosophy. Go ahead and formulate your own opinion and if you don't agree with me that is fine.


You haven't made a point. You say you need to be aware of home/visitors, but you cannot give a reason why?

Mark Padgett Thu Aug 21, 2008 06:22pm

The only reason I can see to be aware of "home vs. visitor" is to make sure they're wearing the correct jerseys. Other than that, I couldn't care less - and I certainly don't let it affect my calls or the way I treat each team and/or their coaching staff.

If the visitors don't like being booed by the disproportionate number of home fans, they should have stayed in bed. What's that got to do with how an official should call the game? I'll answer my own question - nothing!

Tio Thu Aug 21, 2008 06:26pm

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Originally Posted by just another ref
You haven't made a point. You say you need to be aware of home/visitors, but you cannot give a reason why?

Have you ever worked a rivalry game?

just another ref Thu Aug 21, 2008 06:30pm

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Originally Posted by Tio
Have you ever worked a rivalry game?

Yes, and one team was home and the other, visitors. With you so far.

Jurassic Referee Thu Aug 21, 2008 07:43pm

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Originally Posted by Tio
It is clear I cannot express my point to you and Justanotherref.

Go ahead and formulate your own opinion and if you don't agree with me that is fine.

Um no, the problem us that you made <b>TWO</b> different points that are completely conflicting and contradictory.

It's kinda tough to agree with your opinion when you don't seem to agree with your own opinion either.:)


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