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mu4scott Thu Aug 21, 2008 01:51pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge
Who cares if I agree? I am not Welmer and I do not work on national TV every single game. Unlike some people here, I know my place. ;)

Peace

Know my place?? Wow... Sorry... somebody certainly is an elitist.

Keep dancing around the question Jrut. For a person with such strong conviction you certainly don't want to answer this one.

I for one agree w/ what Steve has to say. He's the best there is at "Game Management" and it starts with him from the first call of the game.

M&M Guy Thu Aug 21, 2008 01:52pm

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Originally Posted by mu4scott
He said make sure at the start of the game you have a no doubter on the visiting team if you are going to call it. A 150% if you will. Do you agree?

(Disclaimer: I am not JR, nor do I think I can play him on TV. However, I'll give it a shot.)

What a load of bull-pucky. Why not make <B>all</B> your calls strong calls? Why not strive to make <B>all</B> of them correct? What is being 150% correct, anyway? What if you're only 137% correct? Should you not make the call then? If so, what about 123%? 109%? 101.275%?

Ch1town Thu Aug 21, 2008 01:55pm

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Originally Posted by M&M Guy
Why not make <B>all</B> your calls strong calls? Why not strive to make <B>all</B> of them correct?

Let the church say... AMEN!

JRutledge Thu Aug 21, 2008 01:56pm

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Originally Posted by mu4scott
Know my place?? Wow... Sorry... somebody certainly is an elitist.

Keep dancing around the question Jrut. For a person with such strong conviction you certainly don't want to answer this one.

I for one agree w/ what Steve has to say. He's the best there is at "Game Management" and it starts with him from the first call of the game.

I am only talking to you because I get a certain level of entertainment out of it. I do not need to dance around anything. What ever I think, my life will not change as a result either way. And I had every opportunity to ask Welmer the questions I wanted to when he talked about this in detail. I personally am not going to share what I think to someone that knows every damn thing. ;)

Peace

mu4scott Thu Aug 21, 2008 02:01pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge
I am only talking to you because I get a certain level of entertainment out of it. I do not need to dance around anything. What ever I think, my life will not change as a result either way. And I had every opportunity to ask Welmer the questions I wanted to when he talked about this in detail. I personally am not going to share what I think to someone that knows every damn thing. ;)

Peace

Would you agree that he want's Game Management started by his crew on the very first call of the game?

Jurassic Referee Thu Aug 21, 2008 02:02pm

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Originally Posted by mu4scott
Ummm first off I thought it was rather amusing that after I chided Jrut about his typos he has one in his <font color = red>rebuttle</font>.

Not that I'm chiding you, but the word is <b><i>"rebuttal"</i></b>.

Or is that one of those typo thingys that I've heard so much about lately?

Whatever though ....it is rather amusing.:)

JRutledge Thu Aug 21, 2008 02:04pm

Sorry for the typo.
 
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Originally Posted by mu4scott
Would you agree that he want's Game Management started by his crew on the very first call of the game?

LOL!!!

You are trying waaayyyyyy too hard. :D

Peace

M&M Guy Thu Aug 21, 2008 02:06pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Or is that one of those typo thingys that I've heard so much about lately?

Keyboard Management?

Only type words you are 150% sure of?

Smitty Thu Aug 21, 2008 02:06pm

In and of itself, the video is pointless. Are you suggesting we start every game by looking for a home foul before we find a visitor foul? Is that what you are calling good game management? The video makes no sense in the context it was presented to us.

If you simply call the fouls you see, everything will work itself out.

mu4scott Thu Aug 21, 2008 02:08pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge
LOL!!!

You are trying waaayyyyyy too hard. :D

Peace

No not really. It’s an honest question. I’m trying to get this GM stuff figured out.

mu4scott Thu Aug 21, 2008 02:10pm

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Originally Posted by M&M Guy
Keyboard Management?

Only type words you are 150% sure of?

That was funny!

JRutledge Thu Aug 21, 2008 02:10pm

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Originally Posted by mu4scott
No not really. It’s an honest question. I’m trying to get this GM stuff figured out.

Go read the other thread and you might figure it out.

Peace

Jurassic Referee Thu Aug 21, 2008 02:11pm

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Originally Posted by Smitty
If you simply call the fouls you see, everything will work itself out.

And the more you get right, the better game manager you will be also.

Smitty gets it.:)

mu4scott Thu Aug 21, 2008 02:19pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge
Go read the other thread and you might figure it out.

Peace

I'll stick w/ the game management philosophy of a guy who works more D1 games than anybody in the country. Seems to be a pretty successful path.

JRutledge Thu Aug 21, 2008 02:31pm

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Originally Posted by mu4scott
I'll stick w/ the game management philosophy of a guy who works more D1 games than anybody in the country. Seems to be a pretty successful path.

You do not even realize what you are disagreeing with. I never said to listen to me or what I do exactly what I say. Also there was much more to the talk from Welmer about this "philosophy" than what you heard from a minute statement.

Just this past summer I went to two camps where almost every clinician was a D1 official. I went to another where the camp is run by a D1 Official and I attend that camp every year. There is more to their success then one philosophy pulled out of context. Maybe you should read my signature and the quote. The person that made those statements is a good friend of Welmer and also has his ideas of what works. After all he helps pick or identify officials for the NCAA Tournament. Then again, you probably do not understand that quote either.

Peace


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