Legal pick?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by msavakinas

here is an example of what i consider to be exemplary game management...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHZhDdcE2Iw&NR=1

Do you realize that many of us saw that movie before you were born?

It came out in 1988.

[Adam]

Okay, just to clarify some things. I agree this particular play is (at least) a personal foul on A2. That's an easy call, IMO. I can't tell from the angle, however, if A2 raised her arms into B1. It sure looks like it's possible, and if she did that on a blind screen, the severity of the contact absolutely makes an intentional foul valid by rule. It's a judgment call.

Game management comes into play in determining whether this play should be intentional or not, IMO. The term "game management" is being used here, and I've mocked it to an extent but also said it's a real thing. I should explain. You absolutely cannot determine how GM should come into play with just this one play; you need to see the whole game, probably from the court with the referees' perspectives.

If A2 has been getting rough, or anyone for that matter, a righteous intentional foul might be a good thing to settle things down. If this is the first sign of trouble, a standard personal foul would probably suffice.

Again, remember, by rule, an intentional foul can be called if the contact is severe enough; even if it doesn't match the other requirements. Think of a shooter going up for a shot and getting clobbered and run over by B1 trying to block the shot. If we're going to protect an airborne shooter expecting to get challenged, why won't we protect a defender on an illegal blind screen?

To claim it's bad GM to call this intentional without seeing the rest of the game is just, well, um, well.... I disagree.

[btaylor64]

I like tio and mu4Scott's thought process but I would like for us all to refine or come together as a group and redefine "game management". This OP us not a game management foul. Rarely, if ever, should we call fouls as a game management tools. One of those rare sitches involves sending a shooter to the ft line on a marginal contact play in a 20+ point ball game with under 2 min left. Game mgmt should encompass "running the game" by knowing the score, team fouls, when the penalty is coming up, taking care of subs, knowing the clock status, approaching and addressing coaches in a professional manner, etc. This is game management. We must strive to get plays correct.

This play is an offensive foul. While I don't agree with an intentional foul here. I am going to be more aware of both the players involved in the play for the next coming min. This is also part of good game mgmt (knowing when the intensity changes and levels of anger b/w players has risen)