Dan,
If the Dunker goes up and misses everything, why is that not a try? The try would seem to be the reason the Dunker elevated.
Let's take the rim out of it and insert the backboard.
Do we still have a "no call", or do we now have something else?

mick

If he hit the backboard, I would have a try, just as I would if he hit the rim, unless it's just a show-off move. If he doesn't touch anything with the ball, I'm with Dan. I have a travel.

Interesting question, and not very well addressed in the rule book.

crew, when I get a chance I 'll post some of the differences in the NBA versus NF and NBA traveling rules. But I can think of a huge difference without even looking! Can you? ;)

Would you be thinking of the question for which you get paid $5 each time it is asked? :)

And yes, it's legal in NF; but illegal in the NBA.

Chuck

Well, difference #1 is that the airball-catch-your-own shot is a travel in NBA - I'll spare crew the $5 fee.

The main difference, though, is that travelling is called in NF and not in NBA. :D

You know, if you called basket interference on this play, there would be no discussion about whether or not it is a travel.

In the orginal sitch, the ball was in the cylinder, even on the rim, and then removed from the cylinder by the player. Basket interference does not take into consideration how the ball got into the cylinder, only that it did.

4-6-2 Basket interference occurs when a player touches the ball while any part of the ball is within the imaginary cylinder which has the ring as its lower base.

Read R9-11Exception,Biggie.

show-off move?

As I was writing this I thought "Mick's gonna ask me about
the backboard". ;) Hitting the rim or backboard is a try
on this play so he gets the travel unless he hits either
with the ball. (If you go up to dunk & miss *everything* then you deserve a travel! :)

Look at the exception in 9-11. This exception (the dunk protection clause) applies to both putting the ball in and to blocking shots (i.e., A1 goes up for a dunk, B1's hand gets trapped by the ball outside the cylinder and gets pushed into the cylinder).

Dan,
I think if he forgets to leave the ball up there, he deserves a travel.
mick

Mark,
...And your point is...?

mick

I sent you an e-mail a few days ago.
Did it look like garbage, or are you mad.

We're saying the same thing, no? (I'm assuming in this play
he goes up & comes back down with the ball, an "up&down"
travel.)

Dan,
I really don't know what you are saying.
We <u>apparently</u> agree on the missing everything and returning to the floor.
So, we are at least in a 1/2-slow or 1/2-fast agreement.
mick

What I'm saying (for the last time) is that if A1 goes up
with the ball, does not make a legitimate shot attempt
and comes down with the ball we have a travel. Unless
of course a defender causes a held ball or fouls A1, neither
of which applies to this play. I don't care if he wants to
dunk it or not.

I see.
Thank you.