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Old Fri Jul 04, 2008, 11:33am
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No. I think that at any level it's true, but it varies from level to level. However, NOTHING AT ANY LEVEL BEATS THE OBVIOUS!
Then please do all of us a favor and find some other sport to officiate. Your philosophy has NO place in high school or college basketball.

Freaking ridiculous.....
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Old Fri Jul 04, 2008, 12:43pm
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Now back to my reasoning, it's simple advantage/disadvantage. If a player puts his pivot foot down a tenth of a second before the ball is released for an easy lay-in when no defender is around are you really doing the game any good by calling it?

Now if he is being closely guarded and takes two extra steps and everybody knows he traveled then by all means call the travel. But I would rather see an official pass on a "close" or "non-obvious" travel then to call a wrong one. Thats the way I've been taught to officiate.
Please let us know where the "cut off point" is between 1/10 of a second and two extra steps so we then know when to call the travel and when not to call it. Is it at 1/2 second or perhaps 3/4 step? Inquiring minds want to know.

Making a call like this has nothing to do with "advantage/disadvantage". Either the player traveled or he didn't. If he did and you saw it, call it. If he didn't or if he did and you didn't see it, don't call it. It's a simple game.

On what other rules do you flip a coin to decide if you will enforce them or not?
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Old Fri Jul 04, 2008, 12:57pm
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Making a call like this has nothing to do with "advantage/disadvantage". Either the player traveled or he didn't. If he did and you saw it, call it. If he didn't or if he did and you didn't see it, don't call it. It's a simple game.

On what other rules do you flip a coin to decide if you will enforce them or not?
That pretty much sums it up right there.

Anybody that wants to make up and apply their very own personal set of rules doesn't help the rest of us. Whether we like or agree with certain rules isn't a factor either.

If someone wants to officiate a high school game using NBE philosophies, that's their prerogative. Good luck to them. the good part is that I don't have to work with them. And believe me, I won't.

Jmo...and i sureashell ain't gonna change it.
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Old Fri Jul 04, 2008, 01:06pm
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Please don't get personal.
You're right. I shouldn't have got personal. I was wrong to do that and I apoligize.

Having said that, I really don't see a need to discuss it any further. I quite simply do not agree with you and I never will. Anything further is just repeating myself.
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