Age and Experience

[btaylor64]

Originally Posted by CaRef5

OK so this thread is simple...
Post your age and how long you've been officiating for. And if you want to "toot your own horn" you could post the level at which you officiate.

Il go first.

I'm 19, been officiating basketball for 4 years (since I was 15) and now I'm about to start my first year at the high school level.

CaRef5,

I'm young like yourself. I'm 22 and officiate all levels except NAIA and D3. the guys make a good point about ppl making up whatever they want to and so some ppl might lie to u about what they ref. but just take it for what it is, the internet, and for the most part you can take ppl on here at their word if they ever decide to take your thread seriously and post their exp. which I doubt will happen. Good luck to you in your officiating endeavors.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by btaylor64

I'm 22 and officiate all levels except NAIA and D3.

Really??? You are saying that you work D1, NBA, D-league, D2, and international (FIBA) ball, and sixth grade girls?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Really??? You are saying that you work D1, NBA, D-league, D2, and international (FIBA) ball, and sixth grade girls?

Must be in southern California.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Really??? You are saying that you work D1, NBA, D-league, D2, and international (FIBA) ball, and sixth grade girls?

If you check various sources you will find his name in box scores.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

If you check various sources you will find his name in box scores.

I didn't think they published box scores for the 4' and under leagues?

[Y2Koach]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I didn't think they published box scores for the 4' and under leagues?

isn't the 4" and under league where the guys have to self-pwn?

Regardless of what type of league it is, call it both ways (metric?)

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I didn't think they published box scores for the 4' and under leagues?

Just for the record I met btaylor64 at camp a couple years ago when he was about 20 years old. He is a nice kid and he does work games that can easily be looked up on the internet. I also believe he never worked varsity HS ball. Not everyone follows the same path to success.

[btaylor64]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Really??? You are saying that you work D1, NBA, D-league, D2, and international (FIBA) ball, and sixth grade girls?

Well, first of all if you work for the NBA, you more often than not work in either the NBA or the NBA D-League. Only guys who are b/w their 1-4 yr. in the NBA even work in the NBA D-League as well so you can strike the NBA from that list.

Since I live in the U.S. it would be highly unlikely that I would work FIBA, so you can scratch that one as well. Everything else seems to be right on.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by btaylor64

Since I live in the U.S. it would be highly unlikely that I would work FIBA, so you can scratch that one as well.

Why?

Quite a few U.S. D1 and NBA oficials have also obtained a FIBA rating and have worked FIBA tournaments over the years. To do so, you have to meet FIBA requirements re: camp evaluation, exams passed, age restrictions, etc.
It ain't that easy in the larger countries to obtain a FIBA rating and be qualified for international games.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by btaylor64

Well, first of all if you work for the NBA, you more often than not work in either the NBA or the NBA D-League. Only guys who are b/w their 1-4 yr. in the NBA even work in the NBA D-League as well so you can strike the NBA from that list.

You are not fully accurate. There are plenty of officials who work the D-League, but do not yet work in the NBA. Where you are correct is that once an official is hired at the NBA level, he works a split schedule in both the D-League and the NBA for his first four years.

[btaylor64]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

You are not fully accurate. There are plenty of officials who work the D-League, but do not yet work in the NBA. Where you are correct is that once an official is hired at the NBA level, he works a split schedule in both the D-League and the NBA for his first four years.

I agree with you completely with your first sentence and we are just getting into semantics here, but I don't know if you meant that once a guy gets hired at the NBA level that he works a 50/50 split schedule for his first 4 yrs. That statement would be incorrect. Their first yr. in the NBA it is more like an 80/20 and maybe a 70/30 at most. I know this is the internet and not everyone can be trusted with their information but trust me(redundant, I know) when I say i know more than a little bit about this area.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by btaylor64

I agree with you completely with your first sentence and we are just getting into semantics here, but I don't know if you meant that once a guy gets hired at the NBA level that he works a 50/50 split schedule for his first 4 yrs. That statement would be incorrect. Their first yr. in the NBA it is more like an 80/20 and maybe a 70/30 at most. I know this is the internet and not everyone can be trusted with their information but trust me(redundant, I know) when I say i know more than a little bit about this area.

Never claimed that it was 50/50. The newer guys do work more D-League games, but with only 60 referees they still get a decent number of NBA assignments.

Since you know how the NBA system works, check where one of the four group supervisors for the referees lives.

[btaylor64]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Never claimed that it was 50/50. The newer guys do work more D-League games, but with only 60 referees they still get a decent number of NBA assignments.

Since you know how the NBA system works, check where one of the four group supervisors for the referees lives.

sorry once again it's semantics, but I meant the new guys get 80% nba games and 20% D-League games. Once they get hired they always work way more nba games than D-League games. What does where one of the supervisors live have to do with anything?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by btaylor64

CaRef5,

I'm young like yourself. I'm 22 and officiate all levels except NAIA and D3. the guys make a good point about ppl making up whatever they want to and so some ppl might lie to u about what they ref. but just take it for what it is, the internet, and for the most part you can take ppl on here at their word if they ever decide to take your thread seriously and post their exp. which I doubt will happen. Good luck to you in your officiating endeavors.

Exactly. Take the term "Varsity", for example. There are people who say they work "Varsity" when, in reality, the have never worked an official HS "Varsity" game. The term is used very loosely....to refer to games with Varsity-aged players, rec games with players who have played on a "Varsity" teams, or even games that some rec. leagues call "Varsity" with no connection whatsoever with what most people consider to be "Varsity".

How do you know what a person has really worked? Hard to tell. However, when someone claims to have worked high level games and tends to throw around that info, chances are that they're being liberal with the description...worked a rec. league or summer game with a couple high-level players. Most people who really work legitimate college games don't go around advertising it all the time.

[CaRef5]

OK so i started this thread HOPING some "officials" on this website could take it a bit seriously... obviously that didnt happen especially with the first few replies that were posted....

Anywho, for those who tried to take it seriously... thanks.