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Old Wed Jun 11, 2008, 09:39am
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I have zero confidence in the convicted felon. A conspiracy by the NBA to ensure a game 7 would certainly have come out somewhere. The potential downside should it come out is so massive and devastating that no sane organization would take the risk. Not when the reward is one more game's revenue. Stern is nothing if not calculating, and if he was considering something this nefarious, he would have certainly thought of the colossal risk with a very high probability of coming to fruition.

Until more evidence comes out, I'm taking this for what it is. Desperate anomisity from a convicted felon attempting to lash out at the NBA and reduce his sentence.
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This was the topic of discussion on local talk radio last night, as you might imagine, this being Jazz country and all. And, of course, they dragged out all the most cherished conspiracy theories about the NBA. The biggest being that the NBA always tries to ensure two big market teams make it to the finals, preferably Boston and L.A.

Except that Boston and L.A. haven't been to the finals in what...the past 23 years until now? Which makes that a pretty impotent conspiracy if it exists.

I'll buy that the league promotes and protects the stars. The NBA is a business and nobody pays for season tickets to watch Kobe sitting on the bench with 4 fouls or an injury. But there are just too many variables involved, too many players who are in it only for themselves, and too few consistently "predictable" outcomes for the league and its officials to be exercising the kind of control over the game that so many conspiracy theorists cry about.

I'm betting (no pun intended) that our friend has a book deal in the works and is laying ground work for an "expose" of some kind.
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Old Wed Jun 11, 2008, 01:12pm
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Whether we believe Timmy or not...the KINGS GOT SCREWED in game 6 of that series.

...ok...ok...I bleed purple & black. I just had to rant a bit.
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Old Wed Jun 11, 2008, 01:34pm
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1. who in the world would trade Kwame Brown for Pau Gasol?
2. KG and Allen to Boston?
3. Chicago Bulls with 1.5% chance of winning the lottery (3rd biggest market in the league)
4. Last yr NBA final rating is lowest all all time!!!!
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If he's lying and if he makes these exact same claims under oath, he's committing perjury. Although he's a felon and has lost almost all credibility, I think he's being truthful.
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Old Wed Jun 11, 2008, 02:06pm
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If he's lying and if he makes these exact same claims under oath, he's committing perjury. Although he's a felon and has lost almost all credibility, I think he's being truthful.
He only risks perjury if he actually goes to court to testify about it; and if his testimony is demonstrably false.

By making claims that amount to his word against someone else's, for which there is no documentation either way, he's not really risking perjury charges.

There is no reason to believe him; unless you really want to.
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Old Wed Jun 11, 2008, 03:21pm
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...By making claims that amount to his word against someone else's, for which there is no documentation either way, he's not really risking perjury charges....
Probably what Roger Clemens thought, too.
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For those that don't know, jimpiano only posts here when he can find something negative about officiating to stir the sh!tstorm. Just be aware.
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For those that don't know, jimpiano only posts here when he can find something negative about officiating to stir the sh!tstorm. Just be aware.
Yabut , he does have the right to speak his mind because America is the greatest democracy. But the jig is up, and the truth is out there, we found out his modus operandi.
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Actually my Canadian friend, no he doesn't.

This is a privately owned website. We all post here at the behest and courtesy of RightSports, Inc. RightSports is not the US Government. Therefore, they can edit/delete/censor any remarks or ban any of us completely if they choose to. There is no RIGHT to post here.
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1. who in the world would trade Kwame Brown for Pau Gasol?
2. KG and Allen to Boston?
3. Chicago Bulls with 1.5% chance of winning the lottery (3rd biggest market in the league)
4. Last yr NBA final rating is lowest all all time!!!!
Something does smell funny...

I also like the Crosby to Pittsburg story. I think the league had its mitts in that one.
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Old Wed Jun 11, 2008, 02:03pm
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3. Chicago Bulls with 1.5% chance of winning the lottery (3rd biggest market in the league)
And the odds of Boston slipping to last in the lottery?
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And the odds of Boston slipping to last in the lottery?
dont know, but the math of 1.5 percent is 1,000 x 0.015
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Old Wed Jun 11, 2008, 02:43pm
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1. who in the world would trade Kwame Brown for Pau Gasol?
2. KG and Allen to Boston?
3. Chicago Bulls with 1.5% chance of winning the lottery (3rd biggest market in the league)
4. Last yr NBA final rating is lowest all all time!!!!
If the NBA was rigged, why would they have let SA play Cleveland in the finals last year? And only let it go four games?

If it was rigged, why did PORTLAND and MILWAUKEE (tiny markets) win the two lotteries before that?

People will see whatever they want to see. Bottom line is no way a huge organization like the NBA could keep something like a major fix secret, and they have too much to lose.
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Old Wed Jun 11, 2008, 02:55pm
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If the NBA was rigged, why would they have let SA play Cleveland in the finals last year? And only let it go four games?

If it was rigged, why did PORTLAND and MILWAUKEE (tiny markets) win the two lotteries before that?

People will see whatever they want to see. Bottom line is no way a huge organization like the NBA could keep something like a major fix secret, and they have too much to lose.
As you said, they learned from last year's mistake (low rating) of not wanting the fans to see SA and Cleveland play again. Cleveland and SA would would be fine because of Lebron and Eva Longoria.

As for Milwaukee, they can have three Andrew Boguts and still not make the playoffs!!!

I never said the NBA is rigged, but there sure are a lot of CONSPIRACIES out there that allow many to think so.
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