NBA rule question

[Adam]

Okay, listening to Mike and Mike again this morning, and the topic of the day seems to be the Pistons game last night and the clock malfunction at the end of the third quarter.

5.1 seconds left, ball is inbounded, and the clock freezes at 4.8 seconds. The Mikes were indicating that the refs "guestimated" (Stan Van Gundy's words) the play took 4.6 seconds, so the shot counted. My question is, doesn't the NBA allow replay in this instance to determine the proper timing of the play? If so, for those who saw the game, did the officials last night use replay?

[Jurassic Referee]

Didn't watch the game, but according to news reports the officials are NOT allowed to use replay in situations like that. Instead they ARE allowed to GUESS...which is what they did(and apparently guessed wrongly).

Go figure......

[Adam]

Wow, a bad rule in the NBA?

[loners4me]

replay is only allowed when the clock reads double zero.

[lukealex]

Originally Posted by loners4me

replay is only allowed when the clock reads double zero.

Replay is used in the NBA for last second shots, to see if they got it off in time. I think they used it for that game a couple years ago where they weren't sure if the shot was a 3 and even with HD replay you couldn't tell. I think anyways, it is the NBE

[btaylor64]

Originally Posted by loners4me

replay is only allowed when the clock reads double zero.

That is not the ONLY time they are allowed to use replay but in this instance it was just a weird play and since the clock didn't go to TRIPLE zeros then there is no "trigger", of which there are only 6, that would allow them to use replay, and this is not one of them.

I guarantee you that this will be taken care of in the 2008-09 rule book.

[Cajun Reff]

Steve Javie created the NBA playoffs rulebook and he can edit it and apply it however he wants.

Steve Javie said the play 4.6 seconds, then it took 4.6 seconds and if you question Steve Javie you will take a dirt nap.

which reminds me:
Top 10 Steve Javie Facts:

When the Boogeyman goes to sleep every night, he checks his closet for Steve Javie.

There is no 'ctrl' button on Steve Javie's computer. Steve Javie is always in control.

Apple pays Steve Javie 99 cents every time he listens to a song.

Steve Javie can sneeze with his eyes open.

Steve Javie can eat just one Lay's potato chip.

Steve Javie is suing Myspace for taking the name of what he calls everything around you.

Steve Javie destroyed the periodic table, because he only recognizes the element of surprise.

Steve Javie can kill two stones with one bird.

Steve Javie invented Kentucky Fried Chicken's famous secret recipe, with eleven herbs and spices. But nobody ever mentions the twelfth ingredient: Fear

Steve Javie can win a game of Connect Four in only three moves.

and a bonus:

Steve Javie counted to infinity - twice.

[ace]

^^^^^^ that was just funny as heck Cajun Ref! ^^^^^^^^^

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Cajun Reff

which reminds me:
Top 10 Steve Javie Facts:

I dunno... sounds like a rip off from Chuck Norris.

[Cajun Reff]

can't slip anything past you can i?

[Adam]

We won't tell the Marines what you've done to Norris' legacy.

[CLH]

Originally Posted by Cajun Reff

Steve Javie created the NBA playoffs rulebook and he can edit it and apply it however he wants.

Steve Javie said the play 4.6 seconds, then it took 4.6 seconds and if you question Steve Javie you will take a dirt nap.

which reminds me:
Top 10 Steve Javie Facts:

When the Boogeyman goes to sleep every night, he checks his closet for Steve Javie.

There is no 'ctrl' button on Steve Javie's computer. Steve Javie is always in control.

Apple pays Steve Javie 99 cents every time he listens to a song.

Steve Javie can sneeze with his eyes open.

Steve Javie can eat just one Lay's potato chip.

Steve Javie is suing Myspace for taking the name of what he calls everything around you.

Steve Javie destroyed the periodic table, because he only recognizes the element of surprise.

Steve Javie can kill two stones with one bird.

Steve Javie invented Kentucky Fried Chicken's famous secret recipe, with eleven herbs and spices. But nobody ever mentions the twelfth ingredient: Fear

Steve Javie can win a game of Connect Four in only three moves.

and a bonus:

Steve Javie counted to infinity - twice.

Ok you guys who know me, know i couldn't keep quiet for long when someones running down my hero!!! haha. did you catch the article about steve in Referee magazine this month?

[lukealex]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

I dunno... sounds like a rip off from Chuck Norris.

It is, at one time I had the document saved, its a word document a few pages long. Pretty funny, I'll see if I can find it when i get home tonight

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Didn't watch the game, but according to news reports the officials are NOT allowed to use replay in situations like that. Instead they ARE allowed to GUESS...which is what they did(and apparently guessed wrongly).

Go figure......

Do you expect the refs to use, "One Mississippi, two Mississippi, three Mississippi?" Because that is the only way they would know. There is no provision to use any other device and that is why the play stood.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Do you expect the refs to use, "One Mississippi, two Mississippi, three Mississippi?" Because that is the only way they would know. There is no provision to use any other device and that is why the play stood.

Peace

They used something, because they ended up deciding the play took 4.6 seconds; and resumed play with .5 seconds remaining. Van Gundy is claiming he was told by Javie that they "guestimated" the play took 4.6 seconds. I'm not saying Van Gundy is telling the truth, but given that play resumed with .5 seconds, his explanation seems as plausible as any.

I know the NBA mechanic is to allow play to continue if a play is fully developed in this situation, and determine afterwards how much time should have come off. I wonder if one of the officials caught the stopped clock and started a mental count. But 4.6? Seems awfully precise for a guess.