How to say no

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Basketball officials like to think their sport is special. I do not. I know this will be popular on the basketball board, but whatever.

Come on you've got to admit it, basketball is extremely special

I find that an umpire who has poor mechanics and hence calls a poor strike zone or a football crew that is flag-happy or flag-adverse has a much bigger effect on those respective games.

I concur with the second part of your post, you couldn't be more correct. But does baseball really need a camp for strike zone practice? Doesn't the zone change from batter to batter depending on their height? Just asking because I don't call balls & strikes.

The same with football, is camp really neccesary to know what to flag & what to pass on? Afterall, you can wave a flag off & baseball is so s l o w you have ample time to digest what happened a make a correct ruling.

No disrespect, just saying though. Basketball has so many plays within the game that need split decisions made on the spot. You don't have that factor in those other 2 sports.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

I concur with the second part of your post, you couldn't be more correct. But does baseball really need a camp for strike zone practice? Doesn't the zone change from batter to batter depending on their height? Just asking because I don't call balls & strikes.

The same with football, is camp really neccesary to know what to flag & what to pass on? Afterall, you can wave a flag off & baseball is so s l o w you have ample time to digest what happened a make a correct ruling.

No disrespect, just saying though. Basketball has so many plays within the game that need split decisions made on the spot. You don't have that factor in those other 2 sports.

No disrespect intended, either, but it's clear you really don't understand these sports. It's true that maybe we don't sprint as much in baseball or football, but the mechanics and techniques used in those sports are no less important than those used in basketball.

Originally Posted by RichMSN

It's true that maybe we don't sprint as much in baseball or football, but the mechanics and techniques used in those sports are no less important than those used in basketball.

You're absolutely right.

[truerookie]

Rut, I read what you said and you did not distinguish the difference between HS/College in your reply. When you stated, it is a business. Now, like I stated I understand the business aspect only on the collegiate level. I just don't buy that mentality on the high school level though.

The pay is difference between the two levels. Heck, look at some the pay that been posted on the forum in reference to HS and take a look at some the pay at the collegiate level DIII (3-person). Then tell me, why at the HS level the officials have to work twice as hard to draw even for attending a HS camp that charges $300 to attend. It stinks!!!

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by truerookie

Rut, I read what you said and you did not distinguish the difference between HS/College in your reply. When you stated, it is a business. Now, like I stated I understand the business aspect only on the collegiate level. I just don't buy that mentality on the high school level though.

Rich's concern was about whether it was right at the college level. Then he commented on how he felt it was trickling down to the HS level. My comments were mainly about what he thought about the system. If you really want to make distictions, college camps usually require a longer travel time and more days out of town. Many HS camps are not that far away unless you want it to be. And you have yet to show me where it is supposed to be different?

Originally Posted by truerookie

The pay is difference between the two levels. Heck, look at some the pay that been posted on the forum in reference to HS and take a look at some the pay at the collegiate level DIII (3-person). Then tell me, why at the HS level the officials have to work twice as hard to draw even for attending a HS camp that charges $300 to attend. It stinks!!!

I look at camps differently than you do. The camp I am attending is an investment in me, not how much I get back during the season. We are looking at this from two totally different perspectives. If I only get $50 out of that $300 from that assignor, I likely learned more that will help me in my other games. If I feel that is not worth it, I will not go.

Peace

[truerookie]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I look at camps differently than you do. The camp I am attending is an investment in me, not how much I get back during the season. We are looking at this from two totally different perspectives. If I only get $50 out of that $300 from that assignor, I likely learned more that will help me in my other games. If I feel that is not worth it, I will not go.

Peace

I can live with this analogy.