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fullor30 Tue Apr 08, 2008 02:25pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
Don't rub it in. :)
I commute about 2 1/2 hours a day, so try to spend time with the kids when I'm home. It's a sacrifice I don't intend to have to make next year. :)

On a lesser note, I have a twelve year old son who knows every player on every team, every coach and even the nuances of a Steve Welmer. I made the mistake of letting a friend come over to watch the game last night and he yakked the whole time, much of it nothing about basketball. My son and I have been to final fours, World Series, All star games etc. and we sit and WATCH the game. Any dialogue we have is involving the game itself. So when my friend during the last two minutes asks 'Who's that big guy who plays on North Carolina"? My son almost puked, I ruined our 'mens club' night. Next year, just him and I.

I applaud you for being a Dad first. You got it right.

Andy Tue Apr 08, 2008 02:50pm

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Originally Posted by biz
I almost completely flipped out when Packer said that about the 5 sec. count...what really got me mad though was Nantz agreed with him.

I semi-chuckled to myself...did anybody else hear it this way....

Packer started to say something about the five second count while the ball was rolling, then stopped in mid-sentence. Nantz then chimed in about a possible violation, then Packer spouted off about the five second count....he had paused like he wasn't quite sure, then when Nantz said something, Packer jumped in with his bluster.......

Mark Padgett Tue Apr 08, 2008 03:01pm

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Originally Posted by lpbreeze
I'm glad they cut down on the ads even though there were still too many. I hope CBS got ripped for their earlier games because the amounts of breaks was absurd.

People can "rip" them all they want. CBS contracted to pay the NCAA so much to broadcast the games and they will sell an amount of ad space so as to make a profit. As long as the ratings hit certain numbers, this is how it will be in the future. I doubt the ratings will suffer because people think there's too many ads. Either there will be enough ads to make a profit, or no one will carry the games because they're not going to do it at a loss.

I think over the years, the public has developed a kind of "entitlement mentality" toward certain things. There's no "inherent right" to see sports on television. This is still a capitalistic society, thank goodness.

"The business of America is business".

OK - I'll get off my soapbox for now. :)

Adam Tue Apr 08, 2008 03:30pm

Mark, this ranks with your best posts ever. Well said.

Nevadaref Tue Apr 08, 2008 04:01pm

Nah, it was serious, topical, and otherwise a worthy contribution to the forum.
Frankly, I'm disappointed in him. ;)

rockyroad Tue Apr 08, 2008 04:11pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
Don't rub it in. :)
I commute about 2 1/2 hours a day, so try to spend time with the kids when I'm home. It's a sacrifice I don't intend to have to make next year. :)

You're getting rid of the kids????:eek: :eek: :eek:

Adam Tue Apr 08, 2008 04:11pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref
Nah, it was serious, topical, and otherwise a worthy contribution to the forum.
Frankly, I'm disappointed in him. ;)

I thought he could use some encouragement.

Adam Tue Apr 08, 2008 04:12pm

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Originally Posted by rockyroad
You're getting rid of the kids????:eek: :eek: :eek:

Hadn't thought about it, but for the right price....

Mark Padgett Tue Apr 08, 2008 04:26pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref
Nah, it was serious, topical, and otherwise a worthy contribution to the forum.

My wife saw this post, then looked at me and said, "OK - who are you and what have you done with my husband?" :p

Scrapper1 Tue Apr 08, 2008 04:33pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
Hadn't thought about it, but for the right price....

This is still a capitalistic society, after all! :)

Adam Tue Apr 08, 2008 04:59pm

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Originally Posted by Scrapper1
This is still a capitalistic society, after all! :)

And I am a capitalist pig. Not very good at it, but that's another story.

Mark Padgett Tue Apr 08, 2008 05:48pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
And I am a capitalist pig. Not very good at it, but that's another story.

Hey - I found your pic on the web. I like the tie. Is that one of those Chinese ones from Wal-Mart? :D

http://mwcnews.net/images/stories/MW...talist-Pig.jpg

BillyMac Tue Apr 08, 2008 05:48pm

Another Myth Bites The Dust ...
 
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
The players do determine the outcome of a game. They commit the violations and fouls. The officials just call those violations and fouls. If they don't call 'em, then they <b>aren't</b> violations or fouls.
"Let the players decide the outcome of the game" is a phrase used by coaches and fanboys. Translated, it means "don't call anything on my team, just my opponents".

Amen.

Officials do not make calls that decide the outcome of a game. Players commit fouls and violations; officials view those infractions, judge the action, and then apply the rules of the game to what they had viewed. The rules then determine the penalty. Officials are on the court to be the only unbiased arbiters of the game. Officials are not concerned with who wins or loses, but only fairness and safety. Everyone else in that gym cares about winning, and therefore cannot look at the game objectively.

BillyMac Tue Apr 08, 2008 05:53pm

Why ???
 
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Originally Posted by Camron Rust
When's the last time you've seen a T called at the end of the game when a player heaves the ball into the air as time is about to expire....not really much different.

What rule has been broken here to even consider calling a technical foul? I believe that a player can throw a live ball into the air as high as he, or she, can without being called for a violation, or a foul.

Mark Padgett Tue Apr 08, 2008 05:53pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac
Amen.

Officials do not make calls that decide the outcome of a game. Players commit fouls and violations; officials view those infractions, judge the action, and then apply the rules of the game to what they had viewed. The rules then determine the penalty. Officials are on the court to be the only unbiased arbiters of the game. Officials are not concerned with who wins or loses, but only fairness and safety. Everyone else in that gym cares about winning, and therefore cannot look at the game objectively.

BillyMac, you've given me a great idea for our local kids rec league. Next season, before each game, I'm going to have the two officials stand in front of the benches and address the teams and the spectators by announcing, "Everyone who cares which team wins this game raise your hand. Thanks. Please note that my partner and I were the only two people in the gym who didn't raise a hand. Remember that while the game is being played. Thank you."

Actually, I may really do that - I'm not kidding.


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