UNC/Kansas

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

I don't understand this statement, tomegun. K-State's admission standards are equal to KU's, unless I'm misunderstanding your point.

I think he's implying that Beasley's taking of the SAT was a team effort.

[Nate1224hoops]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I think he's implying that Beasley's taking of the SAT was a team effort.

Jw..I didn't want to say it, but know I don't have to. I've seen lots of players really admire their former coaches and not follow them off to college. I don't think talent was the issue here, nor was work ethic. Guys that talented don't have to work extremely hard. However, graduation rates do mean a little more at KU, UK, UNC, Duke, etc...

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by Nate1224hoops

Jw..I didn't want to say it, but know I don't have to. I've seen lots of players really admire their former coaches and not follow them off to college. I don't think talent was the issue here, nor was work ethic. Guys that talented don't have to work extremely hard. However, graduation rates do mean a little more at KU, UK, UNC, Duke, etc...

Oh, and aside from my being a fan of Kansas State, I really don't enjoy when people make assumptions about a person's intelligence or academics without knowing anything.

Beasley will leave for the NBA this year, but he'll do so in very good academic standing. And Kansas State's compliance with the NCAA in the area of academics is outstanding.

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

Oh, and aside from my being a fan of Kansas State, I really don't enjoy when people make assumptions about a person's intelligence or academics without knowing anything.

I'm not making an assumption about him - I know about him. I knew his story and officiated him more than likely before you ever heard of him. Do you even know where he went to school his "junior" year in high school? Do you know why I put junior in quotes?

That doesn't mean he is a bad person or not a great basketball player.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by tomegun

I'm not making an assumption about him - I know about him. I knew his story and officiated him more than likely before you ever heard of him. Do you even know where he went to school his "junior" year in high school? Do you know why I put junior in quotes?

That doesn't mean he is a bad person or not a great basketball player.

He doesn't even know what an ABCer is!

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

He doesn't even know what an ABCer is!

BTW...sorry I was slow in putting it together. It occured to me what an ABCer was in the middle of the night the other night, and that definitely doesn't describe me or apply to any of the arguements I've made in this thread.

Hell, I like UNC!

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by tomegun

I'm not making an assumption about him - I know about him. I knew his story and officiated him more than likely before you ever heard of him. Do you even know where he went to school his "junior" year in high school? Do you know why I put junior in quotes?

That doesn't mean he is a bad person or not a great basketball player.

Yeah, I know all about his "high school" history. It's certainly not something I'd shine a bright light on if it were my past.

That said, attending several different "basketball factories" and getting himself into some trouble with school authorities says little about his ability or inability to score a qualifying score on the SAT or ACT.

I know several of his instructors at K-State, and they have all said that they were very surprised how engaged and intelligent he was in class. So he has a few people who were skeptical who now have no reason to doubt that he could have scored a qualifying score on his own.

I've no idea how this got so completely off topic, but it's been fun!

[Nate1224hoops]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

Yeah, I know all about his "high school" history. It's certainly not something I'd shine a bright light on if it were my past.

That said, attending several different "basketball factories" and getting himself into some trouble with school authorities says little about his ability or inability to score a qualifying score on the SAT or ACT.

I know several of his instructors at K-State, and they have all said that they were very surprised how engaged and intelligent he was in class. So he has a few people who were skeptical who now have no reason to doubt that he could have scored a qualifying score on his own.

I've no idea how this got so completely off topic, but it's been fun!

The trouble he has had in the past couldn't be a reason he ended up at K-state then huh? My guess is that if he'd had a ball in his hands and on the court somewhere he would never have had any trouble to begin with. Seems as tho the one's who are the most athletically gifted never want to work as hard.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by Nate1224hoops

The trouble he has had in the past couldn't be a reason he ended up at K-state then huh? My guess is that if he'd had a ball in his hands and on the court somewhere he would never have had any trouble to begin with. Seems as tho the one's who are the most athletically gifted never want to work as hard.

I'm not going to try and convince you of anything else, Nate, it's obvious you don't want to believe that Beasley's relationship with Dalonte Hill was tight enough to be the deciding factor in where Beasley attended school, and it's also obvious that regardless of how hard Beasley actually works in and out of practice, you will regard him as someone who "never wants to work as hard."

I'd just encourage you to lose the attitude that is so apparent in your posts that when a player chooses to attend a school other than UNC or Duke or KU or UCLA that it must be because that player wasn't actually recruited by those schools, rather than that player simply deciding he wanted to go somewhere else instead - for whatever reason.

Recruiting is a strange deal. Sometimes the best players don't want to attend a traditional power school. "Aw shucks" Roy isn't the right coach for everyone. Every once in a while, a school you wouldn't suspect makes the right connection with a super-talented kid and UNC loses out on a recruit they wanted.