Rule change time again

[Nevadaref]

So currently do you toss the ball or a coin at the start of the game?

[Texas Aggie]

I still think the best way to keep a game moving in the last couple of minutes is to allow a throw in option for all fouls, possibly including shooting fouls. This removes most incentive to foul to stop the clock unless one team just can't inbound the ball.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

So currently do you toss the ball or a coin at the start of the game?

They quit doing the coin toss the year I left. There are some other differences, as jalons states. The arrow was one (wasn't aware they'd changed it.) It was the one difference I liked, personally.
Also, they line up for free throws the college way (lower block empty, top block can be occupied.) Girls allow the coaching box, boys do not. Previously, there were no indirect Ts in girls ball (not sure if these have changed.) There has been a concerted effort lately to make the rules more similar to the boys.

I'd never heard the reasoning that officials were inconsistent. I had heard there was concern over players getting hurt during jump balls, so that's why they went to the coin toss for a few years (I'm pretty sure it was more than 2 seasons.) My guess is the guy who proposed the safety timeout is related to the one who got the coin toss getting implemented.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I had heard there was concern over players getting hurt during jump balls, so that's why they went to the coin toss for a few years

If they really thought that, why would they allow rebounding? Whatinthehell is the difference? Hell, using the same rationale, we should flip a coin on every missed shot.

Silly monkeys....

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

If they really thought that, why would they allow rebounding? Whatinthehell is the difference? Hell, using the same rationale, we should flip a coin on every missed shot.

Silly monkeys....

Why can't we just have a safety timeout on every miss?

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

If they really thought that, why would they allow rebounding? Whatinthehell is the difference? Hell, using the same rationale, we should flip a coin on every missed shot.

Silly monkeys....

Or, just outlaw basketball altogether and play chess instead. After all, when did someone ever have to be carried out of a chess match on a backboard because of whiplash or a concussion?

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

Or, just outlaw basketball altogether and play chess instead. After all, when did someone ever have to be carried out of a chess match on a backboard because of whiplash or a concussion?

Juulie - you've never seen Josh play chess.

Inside joke, folks.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

Or, just outlaw basketball altogether and play chess instead. After all, when did someone ever have to be carried out of a chess match on a backboard because of whiplash or a concussion?

Every year thousands of people get a king stuck in their eye when they fall asleep at the chess board. This is not a laughing matter.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

Every year thousands of people get a king stuck in their eye when they fall asleep at the chess board. This is not a laughing matter.

http://www.chessville.com/images/JerryKing04.jpg

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

Every year thousands of people get a king stuck in their eye when they fall asleep at the chess board. This is not a laughing matter.

Bishops are worse.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

If they really thought that, why would they allow rebounding? Whatinthehell is the difference? Hell, using the same rationale, we should flip a coin on every missed shot.

Silly monkeys....

I never said the rationale made sense to me; only that was the only one I ever heard. I'd heard there actually was an injury, and the committee over-reacted.

[Adam]

This website has a list of the Iowa girls differences ("adaptations") in the 2003/2004 season.
http://www.icaoa.com/basketball/girl.../adap-0304.htm

[jalons]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

This website has a list of the Iowa girls differences ("adaptations") in the 2003/2004 season.
http://www.icaoa.com/basketball/girl.../adap-0304.htm

Here is the updated bench decorum rule:

BENCH DECORUM RULE---The girls and boys now have the same exact bench decorum rule. Hopefully this will eliminate any misunderstanding or misapplication previously caused by having different rules. There are a couple of basic changes for girls’ coaches. One coach no longer has the liberty to stand the entire time while the game is in progress. A coach will now be allowed to stand and confer with a player(s) whenever the clock is not running. Communication with the player(s) only shall be done in a positive manner and shall take place directly in front of where the coach was seated. Once the ball is back in play and the clock running, the coach must be seated. The same allowances remain in effect as before regarding being able to stand up to call a time out, care for an injured player, coach during a time-out or intermission, go to the scorer’s bench for a correctable error, to replace a disqualified player, and to cheer a great play by their team—but then must return immediately to the bench. While replacing a disqualified player, the coach is now allowed to walk along the team bench to get a player selected to substitute into the game for the disqualified player.

This is a 7-12 grade rule. There will obviously be some preventative officiating done especially early in the season as we transition into this new rule. However flagrant or repeat offenses need to be called. This is not intended to be a time to stand and criticize officials. If standing, the coach shall be coaching their kids. Once seated again, most officials will be willing to move into an area where normal conversation can occur.

[Adam]

Interesting hybrid of the coaching box rule. That started this year, right?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I'd never heard the reasoning that officials were inconsistent. I had heard there was concern over players getting hurt during jump balls, so that's why they went to the coin toss for a few years (I'm pretty sure it was more than 2 seasons.) My guess is the guy who proposed the safety timeout is related to the one who got the coin toss getting implemented.

Well if that is the case, I do not think I have ever heard or seen a player get hurt during a jump ball. If anything I have been kicked and hit more than any player I have ever seen.

Peace