Rule change time again

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by jalons

The IGHSAU (Iowa Girls) used to start their games this way..... THIS CENTURY!

Used to? They've changed?

[jalons]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

Used to? They've changed?

During the 2004-05 and 2005-06 seasons, the Iowa Girls decided who would start the game with the ball by a coin-toss during the captains' meeting. I believe it was the home team who would call "heads" or "tails," and the winner of the toss received the ball. There was no option of deferring if a team desired to do so. The possession arrow would then be set towards the loser of the toss. The reasoning, from what I heard, is that the officials weren't being consistent in throwing the ball straight up for the jump ball and the players risked injury by having to jump to start the game. I don't know for sure which was the true reason behind the coin toss.

The Iowa Girls Union also implemented a state adaptation where the possession arrow reversed as soon as the ball was at the disposal of the player for the throw-in. That changed for the 2006-07 season.

[Nevadaref]

So currently do you toss the ball or a coin at the start of the game?

[Texas Aggie]

I still think the best way to keep a game moving in the last couple of minutes is to allow a throw in option for all fouls, possibly including shooting fouls. This removes most incentive to foul to stop the clock unless one team just can't inbound the ball.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

So currently do you toss the ball or a coin at the start of the game?

They quit doing the coin toss the year I left. There are some other differences, as jalons states. The arrow was one (wasn't aware they'd changed it.) It was the one difference I liked, personally.
Also, they line up for free throws the college way (lower block empty, top block can be occupied.) Girls allow the coaching box, boys do not. Previously, there were no indirect Ts in girls ball (not sure if these have changed.) There has been a concerted effort lately to make the rules more similar to the boys.

I'd never heard the reasoning that officials were inconsistent. I had heard there was concern over players getting hurt during jump balls, so that's why they went to the coin toss for a few years (I'm pretty sure it was more than 2 seasons.) My guess is the guy who proposed the safety timeout is related to the one who got the coin toss getting implemented.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I had heard there was concern over players getting hurt during jump balls, so that's why they went to the coin toss for a few years

If they really thought that, why would they allow rebounding? Whatinthehell is the difference? Hell, using the same rationale, we should flip a coin on every missed shot.

Silly monkeys....

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

If they really thought that, why would they allow rebounding? Whatinthehell is the difference? Hell, using the same rationale, we should flip a coin on every missed shot.

Silly monkeys....

Why can't we just have a safety timeout on every miss?

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

If they really thought that, why would they allow rebounding? Whatinthehell is the difference? Hell, using the same rationale, we should flip a coin on every missed shot.

Silly monkeys....

Or, just outlaw basketball altogether and play chess instead. After all, when did someone ever have to be carried out of a chess match on a backboard because of whiplash or a concussion?

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

Or, just outlaw basketball altogether and play chess instead. After all, when did someone ever have to be carried out of a chess match on a backboard because of whiplash or a concussion?

Juulie - you've never seen Josh play chess.

Inside joke, folks.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

Or, just outlaw basketball altogether and play chess instead. After all, when did someone ever have to be carried out of a chess match on a backboard because of whiplash or a concussion?

Every year thousands of people get a king stuck in their eye when they fall asleep at the chess board. This is not a laughing matter.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

If they really thought that, why would they allow rebounding? Whatinthehell is the difference? Hell, using the same rationale, we should flip a coin on every missed shot.

Silly monkeys....

I never said the rationale made sense to me; only that was the only one I ever heard. I'd heard there actually was an injury, and the committee over-reacted.

[Adam]

This website has a list of the Iowa girls differences ("adaptations") in the 2003/2004 season.
http://www.icaoa.com/basketball/girl.../adap-0304.htm

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I'd never heard the reasoning that officials were inconsistent. I had heard there was concern over players getting hurt during jump balls, so that's why they went to the coin toss for a few years (I'm pretty sure it was more than 2 seasons.) My guess is the guy who proposed the safety timeout is related to the one who got the coin toss getting implemented.

Well if that is the case, I do not think I have ever heard or seen a player get hurt during a jump ball. If anything I have been kicked and hit more than any player I have ever seen.

Peace

[26 Year Gap]

I think the rule changes normally are voted upon and then leaked..er...released late in the month of April.

Rut, does the kicking occur in the captains' meeting? or only during the actual toss?