UK GA - Goaltended FT

[Adam]

Originally Posted by vbzebra

As one who just finished his rookie officiating year, I loved this particular breakdown. Very descriptive and helpful. Would it be accurate to say that goaltending is "deliberate" and basket interferrence is "accidental"?

Not really. Think through the implications. More specifically, think of situations where these two statements would not be accurate. There are plenty.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by vbzebra

As one who just finished his rookie officiating year, I loved this particular breakdown. Very descriptive and helpful. Would it be accurate to say that goaltending is "deliberate" and basket interferrence is "accidental"?

I would not say that. For example, basket interference can definitely be intentional. This sometimes happens when a big guy tries to dunk a missed shot. He goes up, while the ball is still in the cylinder, and jams it into the basket. This is BI, because he touched the ball while it was in the cylinder; and it's also clearly an intentional act.

I suppose it's also possible to accidentally touch a try on its downward flight, but that would be tough.

The main point I was trying to make for this discussion of the free throw, is that during a free throw, you can commit goaltending ONLY on purpose -- either by blocking it on the way up, or intentionally swatting it away before it gets to the basket.

[vbzebra]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

I would not say that. For example, basket interference can definitely be intentional. This sometimes happens when a big guy tries to dunk a missed shot. He goes up, while the ball is still in the cylinder, and jams it into the basket. This is BI, because he touched the ball while it was in the cylinder; and it's also clearly an intentional act.

I suppose it's also possible to accidentally touch a try on its downward flight, but that would be tough.

The main point I was trying to make for this discussion of the free throw, is that during a free throw, you can commit goaltending ONLY on purpose -- either by blocking it on the way up, or intentionally swatting it away before it gets to the basket.

Thanks. I'll have a refresher tonight with my good friend, the NFHS rulebook. The post wasn't originally mine, but it cerainly helped ME alot!

[btaylor64]

Originally Posted by blwall1416

Gotcha. Thanks guys for all of your posts. I'm just trying to move up the officiating ladder, so anything I can learn....I'm all for.

By the way, I'm going to my first D3 camp this summer. ACC, Colonial, Big East, A-10, etc... officials will be there evaluating. Any advice from the veterans?

Sounds like you are going to the D3 super camp in VA? if so, there are some very good officials teaching at that camp. Good luck.

[BillyMac]

A player cannot touch the ball, ring, or net while the ball is on the ring or within the basket. A player cannot touch the ball if it is in the imaginary cylinder above the ring. These are examples of basket interference. It is legal to touch the ring or the net if the ball is above the ring and not touching the ring, even if the ball is in the imaginary cylinder above the ring. It is legal to hang on the ring if a player is avoiding an injury to himself or herself or another player.

The backboard has nothing to do with goaltending. Goaltending is contacting the ball on its downward flight, above the level of the rim, with a chance to go in. On most layups, the ball is going up after it contacts the backboard. It is legal to pin the ball against the backboard if it still on the way up and not in the imaginary cylinder above the basket. Slapping the backboard is neither basket interference nor is it goaltending and points cannot be awarded. A player who strikes a backboard so forcefully that it cannot be ignored because it is an attempt to draw attention to the player, or a means of venting frustration, may be assessed a technical foul. When a player simply attempts to block a shot and accidentally slaps the backboard it is neither a violation nor is it a technical foul.

[BillyMac]

Because basket interference doesn't have to involve a try, you can get some weird basket interference calls; on a throwin, as was previously mentioned, on a ball that hits a player on the shoulder, or on the head, and ends up in the cylinder, or on the ring; on a long pass that hits the floor, and bounces high enough to end up in the cylinder, or on the ring; or on a shot by a player at the wrong basket, not a legal try, but basket interference can be called.

[Back In The Saddle]

So if Wrong Way Corrigan (aka A1) takes a shot at B's basket...

Then A2 (his more well-oriented teammate) swats the shot away while it's on it's downward arc, still above the rim, with a chance to go in...is it goaltending? Are there points awarded? If so, to whom?

or

While A1's shot rolls around the rim, A2 jumps and knocks it off the rim, is it BI? If so, is it offensive or defensive BI? Are there points awarded? If so, to whom?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

So if Wrong Way Corrigan (aka A1) takes a shot at B's basket...

Then A2 (his more well-oriented teammate) swats the shot away while it's on it's downward arc, still above the rim, with a chance to go in...is it goaltending? Are there points awarded? If so, to whom?

or

While A1's shot rolls around the rim, A2 jumps and knocks it off the rim, is it BI? If so, is it offensive or defensive BI? Are there points awarded? If so, to whom?

no and no


yes...defensive BI 2 points for B