What do we have here?

[Ref in PA]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Who cares when the signal is given? That's not the determining factor. It's when the act occurs.

I agree completely. I only pointed out the signal, because we are observers of a tape. My comment was about you saying the infraction "clearly" happens before the shot. To me, it is not that crystal clear when the T occurs. I was merely pointing out what I saw on the tape that cause doubt in my mind to your absolute statement. What was black and white to you was not so clear-cut to me.