blocking and charging

[Mark Dexter]

Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

When I hear assigners tell officials that kind of nonsense it just makes my blood boil and I usually chop the assigner off at the legs if I get the chance.

Going to be in DC any time soon?

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally posted by Mark Dexter

Going to be in DC any time soon?

I cannot believe that an IAABO assigner would require that kind of nonsenses. But no I won't be in DC soon unfortunately.

[tharbert]

Many officials at the 4-8th grade level probably aren't at the top of their game. What part does their association play in referee development? Probably very little as the season wears on. The newer referees calling these games are starved for feedback. How many veteran officials take new guys under their wings, especially for 4-6th grade games? Less than there ought to be.

I also think someone mentioned the key here – referee the defense. Officials tend to ball watch until they "learn" not to do it. It takes practice. This call is hard even for the veterans who watch the play develop by zeroing on the defense. We all know where the offense is going with the ball...it comes down to how the defense handles it.

[Mark Dexter]

Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
I cannot believe that an IAABO assigner would require that kind of nonsenses. But no I won't be in DC soon unfortunately.

No - this is the IM league which I work.

[coach mb]

It's wild the education this forum provides. BktBallRef turned me on to you guys on Feb 6th, this year. I see the games in a whole new light. Most importantly, I've built more confidence and professionalism when speaking with the officials. It really makes for a better game and a hell-of-a-lot less stress for me.

I say it should be mandatory reading for anyone participating in the game Luv it or leave it.

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

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Just this past Thursday I officiated a girls' jr. H.S. DH with a fellow basketball officiating student of mine. After the games I was just furious with him. His mechanics were just terrible, we had way to many double whistles including a blarge. After the game we discussed the things that I saw. He started giving me pycho babble about how most of the guys he officiates with do not use the mechanics fundamentals as outlined in the NFHS Officials Handbook and did not understand why he had to also. In the blarge (which I took away from him, I had a charge; the dribbler made contact with defender right square in the middle of the defender's chest), he was out of position (he had not gone ball side as the lead) and I took the drive to the basket as the trail. When he described how he saw the play, I asked him what exactly did the defender do to not maintain a legal guarding position against the dribbler and he kept say that she got in the dribbler's way at the last second. We got out the rule book and looked at the definition of guarding and I asked him again why he wanted to call a charge when his own description of the play was a casebook description of charging and he said it just had to be a block because the defender got in the dribbler's way at the last second. At that point I gave up.

You must have the rookies lined up around the block to be
mentored by you.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Dan_Ref, not this year. Usually we have about four to six students from Bowling Green State Univ. take our officiating class. Nobody took the class this year; the first time in ten years that we did not have a officiating. The major reason is there is no way that people want to put up with the horse manure that we officials have to put up with. In the one high school summer league that I officiate in, I am constantly trying to recruite the players (both male and female) to consider becoming basketball officials after they graduate from high school, but they all tell me the same thing, no way, to much horse manure to put up with. All I can say is: Out of the mouths of babes.

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
Dan_Ref, not this year. Usually we have about four to six students from Bowling Green State Univ. take our officiating class. Nobody took the class this year; the first time in ten years that we did not have a officiating. The major reason is there is no way that people want to put up with the horse manure that we officials have to put up with. In the one high school summer league that I officiate in, I am constantly trying to recruite the players (both male and female) to consider becoming basketball officials after they graduate from high school, but they all tell me the same thing, no way, to much horse manure to put up with. All I can say is: Out of the mouths of babes.

Please, Mark, no formalities. Just call me Dan.

[dblref]

Originally posted by Mark Dexter

Going to be in DC any time soon?

Let's make sure that you mean DC and not northern VA officials. There is a tremendous difference.

[Mark Dexter]

Originally posted by dblref

Let's make sure that you mean DC and not northern VA officials. There is a tremendous difference.

Hey! I resemble that remark!

No - these are the intramural officials/supervisors with whom I work.

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
Just this past Thursday I officiated a girls' jr. H.S. DH with a fellow basketball officiating student of mine. He started giving me pycho babble about how most of the guys he officiates with do not use the mechanics fundamentals as outlined in the NFHS Officials Handbook and did not understand why he had to also. In the blarge (which I took away from him, I had a charge; the dribbler made contact with defender right square in the middle of the defender's chest), he was out of position (he had not gone ball side as the lead) and I took the drive to the basket as the trail.

I know I'm picking at nits here, Mark, but you were upset that your partner wasn't using proper mechanics, but then you (knowingly, it seems) administered the blarge incorrectly.

I know none of us wants that situation in one of our games, but when it happens, NF rules dictate that we administer both fouls and go to the arrow. Your partner's positioning shouldn't overrule correct administration of the rules, should it?

Chuck