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Old Thu Feb 07, 2008, 03:09pm
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A foul call is a judgement call and should be handled as I said above w/ judgement calls. We've all blown a quick whistle we want back, but in a situation like you've just said usually you should go ahead and report the foul. It'd have to be a crazy-obvious clean block to not go ahead and report, IMO. You can then deal with the coach if he questions the call in the way described.

If you have an IW during a try and the try is successful, then POI is the made basket and you give the other team the ball on the endline.
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Old Thu Feb 07, 2008, 03:16pm
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Never accidently blown my whistle yet, however, on 3 or 4 occasions this year I have had my fist halfway up and pulled back. I working on fixing it.
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Old Thu Feb 07, 2008, 03:59pm
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Never accidently blown my whistle yet, however, on 3 or 4 occasions this year I have had my fist halfway up and pulled back. I working on fixing it.

I've done this a few times, and one time had a coach ask "What were you raising your arm for back there"? I just smiled and gave him the "give me a break" look. (It was a good natured jab).
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Old Thu Feb 07, 2008, 04:28pm
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I've done this twice and thankfully it was years ago. Both times were due to working in gyms that had lines on the court for every conceivable game that might be played on the hardwood -- basketball, volleyball, soccer, jai alai, whatever!

One was a backcourt violation, which I then quickly realized it was not the backcourt line, but one about 2-3 feet from that. I corrected my mistake, gave the ball back to the team in possession, and moved on.

Second was an OOB that wasn't -- the lines for the basketball court were a light grey (which is about the most horrendous color you could pick) and not very visible... Played stepped on the line at the baseline and I blew my whistle, then realized it wasn't the OOB line. Corrected and moved on. (This court was SO confusing that players would often run out of bounds while bringing the ball upcourt!!)
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Old Thu Feb 07, 2008, 05:15pm
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I've done this twice and thankfully it was years ago. Both times were due to working in gyms that had lines on the court for every conceivable game that might be played on the hardwood -- basketball, volleyball, soccer, jai alai, whatever!

One was a backcourt violation, which I then quickly realized it was not the backcourt line, but one about 2-3 feet from that. I corrected my mistake, gave the ball back to the team in possession, and moved on.

Second was an OOB that wasn't -- the lines for the basketball court were a light grey (which is about the most horrendous color you could pick) and not very visible... Played stepped on the line at the baseline and I blew my whistle, then realized it wasn't the OOB line. Corrected and moved on. (This court was SO confusing that players would often run out of bounds while bringing the ball upcourt!!)
Both of these hve happened to me as well.

Just get the ball back in & life goes on.

btw...I really like this from the OP

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For some unknown reason my whistle blew...
Maybe I'll use that next time a coach questions my whistle... "Geeze coach, I dunno what happened! Damn thing has a mind of it's own!!"

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Old Thu Feb 07, 2008, 05:56pm
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hey it happened to me the other night. kid was dribbling then did an obvious palming/cross over and I blow my whistle. Sure enough the kid picks up his dribble and didn't bounce the ball again. You had to see it I Guess.

Anyway, I knew right there I made a mistake and the crowd went nuts. I looked at my partner then approached both coaches, told them I anticipated the palming call and it didn't happen.

Therefore IW and play resumed. I about stuck to my guns and attempted to sell the call, but there was nothing for sale...lol...

I had to correct my mistake. The whole gym saw the same thing I did.

I felt about 2 inches tall and wished there was a hole to crawl in....
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Old Thu Feb 07, 2008, 08:42pm
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Twice, Yes, Believe It Or Not, Twice...

Twice, in twenty-seven years, I've called a foul on A1 for fouling A2. In both cases there was rebounding action.
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Old Fri Feb 08, 2008, 01:14pm
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I've done this twice and thankfully it was years ago. Both times were due to working in gyms that had lines on the court for every conceivable game that might be played on the hardwood -- basketball, volleyball, soccer, jai alai, whatever!

One was a backcourt violation, which I then quickly realized it was not the backcourt line, but one about 2-3 feet from that. I corrected my mistake, gave the ball back to the team in possession, and moved on.

Second was an OOB that wasn't -- the lines for the basketball court were a light grey (which is about the most horrendous color you could pick) and not very visible... Played stepped on the line at the baseline and I blew my whistle, then realized it wasn't the OOB line. Corrected and moved on. (This court was SO confusing that players would often run out of bounds while bringing the ball upcourt!!)
Ahh yes... sounds like you were working the old NBAA!
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Old Fri Feb 08, 2008, 01:40pm
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Had one myself the other night. I was lead and watching off ball post play. Player B1 ended up alone in the key and for some reason I started a three second count on him in my head. Well, at 3 seconds I blew my whistle. But just before I signaled I realized that this was a defensive player. I called an inadvertent and gave the ball back to team A. Fortunately, the offense wasn’t making a move to the basket.
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Old Mon Feb 11, 2008, 02:40pm
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Had one myself the other night. I was lead and watching off ball post play. Player B1 ended up alone in the key and for some reason I started a three second count on him in my head. Well, at 3 seconds I blew my whistle. But just before I signaled I realized that this was a defensive player. I called an inadvertent and gave the ball back to team A. Fortunately, the offense wasn’t making a move to the basket.
This is the time when you walk to a spot on the floor and pick up that imaginary scrap piece of paper and put it in your pocket.
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Old Mon Feb 11, 2008, 01:49pm
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Never accidently blown my whistle yet, however, on 3 or 4 occasions this year I have had my fist halfway up and pulled back. I working on fixing it.

Ive done this a few times... Its either cause I'm anticipating or because I'm slow in reacting.
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Old Thu Feb 07, 2008, 03:51pm
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If you have an IW during a try and the try is successful, then POI is the made basket and you give the other team the ball on the endline.
Let's say I commit the cardinal sin of anticipating contact. I blow my whistle and signal for a foul but I know for a fact it was a clean block. If I have the guts to claim IW, who gets the ball?
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Old Thu Feb 07, 2008, 03:54pm
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Let's say I commit the cardinal sin of anticipating contact. I blow my whistle and signal for a foul but I know for a fact it was a clean block. If I have the guts to claim IW, who gets the ball?
When in doubt, it's usually a good idea to just follow the rules. The play is covered under rule 4-36.
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Old Mon Feb 11, 2008, 12:39pm
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When in doubt, it's usually a good idea to just follow the rules. The play is covered under rule 4-36.
JR............A1 with ball in frontcourt, B coach requests time out, official blows whistle and realizes error. With stoppage of play, can B's request now be granted? Can subs come in? We were discussing this and can't find rule reference.
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Old Mon Feb 11, 2008, 12:44pm
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JR............A1 with ball in frontcourt, B coach requests time out, official blows whistle and realizes error. With stoppage of play, can B's request now be granted? Can subs come in? We were discussing this and can't find rule reference.
Yes, yes. Grant the timeout (a timeout can be granted during any dead ball so long as it isn't prohibited by rule). You screwed up, but now he gets the TO he wanted.

And then, of course, subs can come in.
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