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Old Fri Feb 08, 2008, 03:51pm
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Just because you can't do it, don't hate on others who can. I got news for you, most cocky officials are cocky with a lanyard and without. Trust me I'm one of em.
There's a difference between can't and don't want to, just like there's a difference between having presence and trying to draw attention to yourself.
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Old Sat Feb 09, 2008, 10:22pm
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I've never seen anyone go without that wasn't cocky, didn't act that way, didn't call attention to themselves in other ways.

It is what it is...BIG TIMING...and it shows.
Well add this to your database.

I happen to know a long time HS official who is not the least bit a cocky bigtimer in ANY part of his life, even though he has every damn reason to be.

Oh yeah, and he doesn't use a lanyard.

Go figure... :shrug:

btw, blonde is how we English speakers spell the French word blond.

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Old Sun Feb 10, 2008, 08:31am
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Well add this to your database.

I happen to know a long time HS official who is not the least bit a cocky bigtimer in ANY part of his life, even though he has every damn reason to be.

Oh yeah, and he doesn't use a lanyard.

Go figure... :shrug:

btw, blonde is how we English speakers spell the French word blond.
Geeze, there ya go with that "clique" thingy again.

The "clique" being anyone who disagrees with BZ......
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Old Thu Feb 07, 2008, 05:58am
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1) I guarantee you in the time it takes you to find your whistle on your lanyard and get it in your mouth, I could have blown the thing at least 3 times by then.

2) A lot of guys back, back, back in the day didn't use lanyards. It was the norm. Or so I was told.
1) I guarantee you that makes zero sense. Nobody with a lanyard has to find their whistle and put it in their mouth. The whistle gets put in their mouth when they start play, exactly the same as somebody who doesn't use a lanyard. And it stays in their mouth, exactly the same as somebody without a lanyard. Ridiculous argument.

2) You were told wrong. I officiated back in the day. The only officials that didn't use lanyards were a few officials in the NBA and the odd (and I mean odd) college official. It was about as far from the norm as you can get. Going back 50 years, lanyards were part of most, if not all, dress codes back then.
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Old Thu Feb 07, 2008, 10:38am
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1) I guarantee you that makes zero sense. Nobody with a lanyard has to find their whistle and put it in their mouth. The whistle gets put in their mouth when they start play, exactly the same as somebody who doesn't use a lanyard. And it stays in their mouth, exactly the same as somebody without a lanyard. Ridiculous argument.

2) You were told wrong. I officiated back in the day. The only officials that didn't use lanyards were a few officials in the NBA and the odd (and I mean odd) college official. It was about as far from the norm as you can get. Going back 50 years, lanyards were part of most, if not all, dress codes back then.
#1 is silly - I have my whistle in my mouth just as much as a lanyard-less person does. Where a hand/finger whistle helps is in a sport where it isn't crucial to carry the whistle in the mouth, like football or hockey.

I don't get the fascination with it, actually. Little has really changed in the 20 years (I know, JR, I'm a youngster) I've been working: collar to v-neck, neck lanyard to smitty, pea whistle to Fox 40, pleated pants, patent shoes (for some).

The only advantage to no lanyard is not having something for some chucklehead to grab onto running on or off the floor. I eliminate that by putting the whistle inside my shirt for pregame, halftime, and postgame and pulling it out only when I'm working.

Tried the noose and Dolfin this year. Hate the noose, I may as well have someone choke me. Love the sound the Dolfin makes but hate the fact I can't tell which side is up without looking at it. Back to the Fox 40 and smitty.
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Old Thu Feb 07, 2008, 10:56am
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When I do wear a lanyard, the noose is my lanyard of choice.

I don't think its an ego thing like a bunch of people have pointed out. I know for me it is not. It's what I've gotten used to. It started out as a joke with that one assignor, and hey, I actually liked it enough to continue trekking on without it.
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Tried the noose and Dolfin this year. Love the sound the Dolfin makes but hate the fact I can't tell which side is up without looking at it.
I started using the Dolfin this year and prefer it in large gyms or field houses, but go for the Fox40 in other venues. I think part of the allure of the Dolfin is that it works no matter which way is "up."
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Old Thu Feb 07, 2008, 04:55pm
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Tried the noose and Dolfin this year. ... Love the sound the Dolfin makes but hate the fact I can't tell which side is up without looking at it. Back to the Fox 40 and smitty.
I like using the Dolphin in multi-court tournaments because it sounds little different than the F40. Helps differentiate whistles from the next court.

As for its shape, one of the reasons I like the Dolphin is because it's right-side-up no matter how I grab it and put it in my mouth.
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Old Thu Feb 07, 2008, 11:08pm
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I have worked over 75 high school games this year. Never wear a lanyard and have not dropped the whistle on the floor yet. Jinx. I do it to look cool, style over substance. Try to big time it a little big. Maybe impress the ladies and all. Cocky and draw attention to myself as well.
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Old Thu Feb 07, 2008, 07:03am
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It's just a preference thing.

I personally never use one. I would rather not choke myself or scratch my neck all night. I also feel like I am in more control with the whistle in my hand. I guarantee you in the time it takes you to find your whistle on your lanyard and get it in your mouth, I could have blown the thing at least 3 times by then. It is as easy for me to go sans lanyard as it is for you to go with a lanyard. Just a preference which adds to your style.

Let me ask you a question:

Why would you want to go with a lanyard?

Alot of guys back, back, back in the day didn't use lanyards. It was the norm. Or so I was told.
You shouldn't let your (obvious) desire to make it into the D-league and NBA cloud your thoughts. Have you officiated enough games to say that a lanyard will scratch your neck? That doesn't even sound right.
Like others have said, this doesn't give you a patient whistle and truth be told most guys don't even know how to properly give signals with the whistle in their hands.
We could race to see and I would have my whistle in my mouth just as quickly as you would.
Typical youngster - you are worried about a preference that adds to your style before you even have a full varsity schedule unless I'm mistaken. Style over substance is the norm for younger people, but it should be the other way around. Don't get me wrong, I like style just as much as the next person/official, but you have to have the fundamentals down first.
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Old Thu Feb 07, 2008, 03:33pm
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You shouldn't let your (obvious) desire to make it into the D-league and NBA cloud your thoughts. Have you officiated enough games to say that a lanyard will scratch your neck? That doesn't even sound right.
Like others have said, this doesn't give you a patient whistle and truth be told most guys don't even know how to properly give signals with the whistle in their hands.
We could race to see and I would have my whistle in my mouth just as quickly as you would.
Typical youngster - you are worried about a preference that adds to your style before you even have a full varsity schedule unless I'm mistaken. Style over substance is the norm for younger people, but it should be the other way around. Don't get me wrong, I like style just as much as the next person/official, but you have to have the fundamentals down first.

You are mistaken. No big deal though. I was making a small little joke about lanyards.

I would like to think my fundamentals have developed quite well. Maybe they haven't since I don't wear a lanyard
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Old Thu Feb 07, 2008, 08:28am
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It's just a preference thing.

I personally never use one. I would rather not choke myself or scratch my neck all night. I also feel like I am in more control with the whistle in my hand. I guarantee you in the time it takes you to find your whistle on your lanyard and get it in your mouth, I could have blown the thing at least 3 times by then. It is as easy for me to go sans lanyard as it is for you to go with a lanyard. Just a preference which adds to your style.

Let me ask you a question:

Why would you want to go with a lanyard?

Alot of guys back, back, back in the day didn't use lanyards. It was the norm. Or so I was told.
"I guarantee you in the time it takes you to find your whistle on your lanyard and get it in your mouth, I could have blown the thing at least 3 times by then"

It's in my mouth, why would it be out during play? Regarding speed blowing,blowing your whistle three times isn't necessarily a good thing.

When you say just a preference that adds to your 'style' What made you switch? Where do you put it on a jump if you're the R? Obviously you've become comfortable with it and it works for you which is all that counts but something tells me you want to imitate the 'big dawgs'

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