How many flops?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by blindzebra

What does a player on the floor presenting a danger have to do with rules?

I said it presented a danger...newsflash it does...not that it presenting a danger makes it a foul in and of itself. Do try to keep up.

So to simply say no contact no foul is way outside the reality of the situation.

A better way to see it is some contact, that would not have happened without the flop, that while minimal was caused by a questionable act and is a safety issue for the players in the area and the flopper too.

Pardon me. I read between the lines to say that you might be influenced to call this a foul with an amount of contact that was not sufficient to make this call if not for the resulting unsafe situation. So if not that, then what was the point of mentioning the safety issue? Just trying to keep up.

[blindzebra]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Pardon me. I read between the lines to say that you might be influenced to call this a foul with an amount of contact that was not sufficient to make this call if not for the resulting unsafe situation. So if not that, then what was the point of mentioning the safety issue? Just trying to keep up.

Some will have us all believe that judgment and rule application lives in a vacuum and go ape spit over concepts like flopping is a block.

What I was saying was that in reality rarely does a flopper go down without some residual contact. Also in reality most officials have a difficult time with the punishment fitting the crime for a flop...much like it was with elbow swinging and leaving the floor before both became violations...so until the NFHS wises up and makes flopping a common foul or violation, many, and I'll bet in practice, most officials find some contact to punish the flopper for their unsafe and unsporting act.