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Old Mon Feb 18, 2002, 10:08am
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Anybody happen to see the Milwaukee/Toronto game last night? I just caught the highlights on ESPN. One of the plays they showed was a FT, of all things.

Toronto player shoots FT and misses. Ball comes off rim normally and another Raptor just grabs the rebound uncontested and slams it home.

Why was the rebound so uncontested? B/c the refs allowed the players to line up in the wrong spots along the lane!! The Toronto player was in the low space and the Milwaukee player was in the next space.

Isn't it nice to know that we're not the only ones to get an occasional brain cramp?

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Old Mon Feb 18, 2002, 10:35am
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Yes, I saw the highlight Chuck, it was funny to see them make that mistake. I think it is also relevant to know how the official handled it. He quickly realized what had happened, wiped off the basket, called a lane violation, and gave them another free throw. You could see him telling the coach that he had messed up, but that this was the only way to handle it.


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Anybody happen to see the Milwaukee/Toronto game last night? I just caught the highlights on ESPN. One of the plays they showed was a FT, of all things.

Toronto player shoots FT and misses. Ball comes off rim normally and another Raptor just grabs the rebound uncontested and slams it home.

Why was the rebound so uncontested? B/c the refs allowed the players to line up in the wrong spots along the lane!! The Toronto player was in the low space and the Milwaukee player was in the next space.

Isn't it nice to know that we're not the only ones to get an occasional brain cramp?

Chuck
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Old Mon Feb 18, 2002, 11:33am
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Of course we all know NCAA and Fed. don't give us that option. NBA-I forget the teams but, it appeared one team was going to win because the other team needed a three. player dribbled down to the three point arc, stop to shoot, could not get the shot off so he dribbled a again,(double dribble) and official missed it. He missed the shot but they got the rebound and shot and made a three to tie. not good.
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Old Mon Feb 18, 2002, 11:45am
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Sunday's Blazers - Lakers game, Rueben Patterson of Portland misses the second of two, then soars to the basket, grabs the ball with both hands and stuffs it. Perfectly legal - perfectly embarrassing for the Lakers.

You don't often see the shooter get position for the rebound uncontested.
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Old Mon Feb 18, 2002, 12:18pm
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8th grade girls' this weekend, A1 shooting 1-and-1, after miss, A2 steps in, rebounds, and makes an easy lay-up while every one else watches. Coach B screams for a time out!!!
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Old Mon Feb 18, 2002, 02:22pm
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I think the NBA official did the right thing in wiping out the basket, calling a lane violation, and reshooting the free throw.(Although, not sure if NBA is the same rules). In High School, even though we as officials do preventative officiating in making sure that the defense occupies the lowest spot, if we miss it, then it is a violation on the defense for not having occupied this spot. This is a delayed call, so if the free throw is good, no call made. If missed, you make the call and reshoot the FT. This is why preventative officiating of this type can save you a lot of grief later on.
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Old Mon Feb 18, 2002, 03:22pm
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I think the NBA official did the right thing in wiping out the basket, calling a lane violation, and reshooting the free throw.(Although, not sure if NBA is the same rules). In High School, even though we as officials do preventative officiating in making sure that the defense occupies the lowest spot, if we miss it, then it is a violation on the defense for not having occupied this spot. This is a delayed call, so if the free throw is good, no call made. If missed, you make the call and reshoot the FT. This is why preventative officiating of this type can save you a lot of grief later on.
Not quite, Dave. In NF, this would be a double violation - one for B not occupying the lower block and one for A occupying the lower block. If it's the last shot, go to the arrow.
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Old Mon Feb 18, 2002, 11:28pm
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another ft situation

while lining up for the second 1 and 1-
coach:WHY DOES HE GET 2 Shots!!

me: its 1 and 1, he gets 1 shot AND another if he makes it.

coach: Oh.

this was Boys JV
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Old Mon Feb 18, 2002, 11:48pm
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I am not questioning your answer about being a double violation, but do you have a reference as to the violation on the shooting team player being lined up in the 1st space? All I can find is that it is a violation if the opponent of the shooter is not occupying the 1st (lowest) space? Thanks for your feedback.
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Old Tue Feb 19, 2002, 12:02am
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I am not questioning your answer about being a double violation, but do you have a reference as to the violation on the shooting team player being lined up in the 1st space? All I can find is that it is a violation if the opponent of the shooter is not occupying the 1st (lowest) space? Thanks for your feedback.
9-1-2: An opponent of the free thrower shall occupy each lane space adjacent to the end line during the try . . . and no teammate of the free thrower may occupy either of these lane spaces.
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Old Tue Feb 19, 2002, 09:38am
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And now that I think about it they may have done this in the NBA game that Chuck brought up. I am not sure that they awarded another free throw or went to the arrow. I just remembered the official wiping off the basket and telling the coaches that he had messed up.
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Old Tue Feb 19, 2002, 11:28pm
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Thanks for the reference. This is why this site is so helpful. Just when I think I know it all, I don't. lol
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Old Tue Feb 19, 2002, 11:34pm
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And now that I think about it they may have done this in the NBA game that Chuck brought up. I am not sure that they awarded another free throw or went to the arrow. I just remembered the official wiping off the basket and telling the coaches that he had messed up.
I didn't think the NBA had the arrow....
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Old Tue Feb 19, 2002, 11:38pm
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Double violation it is also listed as situation 15
at the NFHS interpt site
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Old Wed Feb 20, 2002, 12:42am
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it is a double violation in the nba as well.
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