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Mark Dexter Thu Feb 21, 2002 07:57am

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
My first year as a JV college official, I did a JV game at Coast Guard. I called 4 carries and the visiting coach was starting to get frustrated with me. He goes to my partner to complain about it.

My partner's reply was, "Coach, the NCAA just sent out a bulletin to call the carry. He's just the only one that read it."

Funny thing was, he was probably right.

Chuck

The CGA, huh? Now you're reachin' a bit too far into my territory! I might have to start doing Patriot League games if you keep this up . . .

mick Thu Feb 21, 2002 08:36am

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Originally posted by Mark Dexter

Not to be nit-picky, but all carrying violations are double dribbles.

I thought they were illegal dribbles or palming.

RookieDude Thu Feb 21, 2002 09:00am

I had a veteran partner signal a double dribble on a player driving to the hoop, inside the key. It looked terrible and he knew it. We talked about it at half time and my partner stated that the player palmed or "carried" the ball and that's the only signal he could come up with. I told him it was a proper mechanic to us the "over and back" signal or "palming" signal (one in the same) to show the palming violation.

I think the double dribble mechanic is outdated and not one that I will use.

RD

bob jenkins Thu Feb 21, 2002 09:48am

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Originally posted by RookieDude
I had a veteran partner signal a double dribble on a player driving to the hoop, inside the key. It looked terrible and he knew it. We talked about it at half time and my partner stated that the player palmed or "carried" the ball and that's the only signal he could come up with. I told him it was a proper mechanic to us the "over and back" signal or "palming" signal (one in the same) to show the palming violation.

I think the double dribble mechanic is outdated and not one that I will use.

RD

The "carry" mechanic was in the book for a number of years, then removed a couple of years ago (for one year, iirc). It was added back in last(?) year.

Mark Dexter Thu Feb 21, 2002 04:33pm

Quote:

Originally posted by mick
Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Dexter

Not to be nit-picky, but all carrying violations are double dribbles.

I thought they were illegal dribbles or palming.

Yes, and you use the signal for palming/carrying the ball.

However, it is a violation because the dribble ends when the ball is palmed/carried - when the ball is pushed back to the floor - violation. (We just use the carry signal for the benefit of howler monkeys everywhere.)

If you look at rule nine, there is no mention of palming or carrying - just the double dribble prohibition and exceptions.

Indy_Ref Thu Feb 21, 2002 04:36pm

And another coach's response...
 
Another dialogue that ensued after I called a carry last weekend:

Coach: "Carry? That hasn't been called all year!"
Me: "Coach, I haven't officiated your team before tonight."
Coach: "This isn't the seventies. They made that call in the seventies."
Me (smirking): "Coach, is 'carrying' still in the book?"
Coach (looking ticked): "That's stupid! Don't say stupid things like that!"
Me (thinking to myself): "Coach, you should hear yourself talking!"

Mark Dexter Thu Feb 21, 2002 04:50pm

Re: And another coach's response...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Indy_Ref
Me (smirking): "Coach, is 'carrying' still in the book?"

Actually, it's not.

See my previous post.


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