T or no T

[secondregionbug]

Team A is 30 behind with 3:00 to go in game and asks for a 30 second time out. After the TO they have water on the floor. I tell them to clean it up and give them a delay of game warning. the coach comes to me and tells me there are no towels available and then two of his players take their shirts off and start cleaning up the water with their shirts......................T or not???????????

[Bad Zebra]

Please tell me this is a rec game. What kind of HS or MS team would have their players remove jerseys to mop the floor?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by secondregionbug

Team A is 30 behind with 3:00 to go in game and asks for a 30 second time out. After the TO they have water on the floor. I tell them to clean it up and give them a delay of game warning. the coach comes to me and tells me there are no towels available and then two of his players take their shirts off and start cleaning up the water with their shirts......................T or not???????????

Either way, you gotta give 'em an A for effort.

[Mark Padgett]

Was this a boys game?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by secondregionbug

After the TO they have water on the floor. I tell them to clean it up and give them a delay of game warning.

Just give them the "delay of game" warning. A "T" is reserved for further delays. If you give them a "T now, you're punishing them twice for the same act.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Was this a boys game?

You naughty boy. Are you off your meds again.

MTD, Sr.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Just give them the "delay of game" warning. A "T" is reserved for further delays. If you give them a "T now, you're punishing them twice for the same act.

So you're saying ignore the two players taking their shirts off?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

So you're saying ignore the two players taking their shirts off?

Geeze, to be honest I never even thought of that.

Silly monkeys.

I guess I'd try to get to 'em before they took their shirts off.

[truerookie]

In this situation, they can remove their shoes and use their socks to wipe the floor.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Geeze, to be honest I never even thought of that.

Silly monkeys.

I guess I'd try to get to 'em before they took their shirts off.

LOL! That was the only thing I could figure...that you just completely missed that part.

[secondregionbug]

Yes it was a boys varsity game. Would you give the T for the shirts?????

[ca_rumperee]

Originally Posted by secondregionbug

Team A is 30 behind with 3:00 to go in game and asks for a 30 second time out. After the TO they have water on the floor. I tell them to clean it up and give them a delay of game warning. the coach comes to me and tells me there are no towels available and then two of his players take their shirts off and start cleaning up the water with their shirts......................T or not???????????

... is ALWAYS have a big beach towel in the bag!

When I get a spill during rec games I suggest we grab a couple of small children from the stands and drag them around the floor.

[Bad Zebra]

I'm with JR. Try to catch them before they take 'em off...gotta be paper towels in the locker room or something...I'd admire their zeal to comply but mopping the floor with one's uniform jerseys would look pretty...I don't know...disrespectful(?) to the school and team they represent. In the end, I don't think I could whack them for that. I don't think that was the intent of the rule.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

The intent the rule forbidding a player from removing his jersey was to prevent basketball players copying soccer players and their stupid habit of removing their jerseys to protest the officiating or celebrating a score. Instead the Rules Committee, said that if A1 had to use A15's jersey because maybe A1's jersey became torn, A1 and A15 and to go to locker room to make the switch and if they made the exchange at courtside, it was a TF for each player who removed his shirt. Once again the brainless twits were writing the rules and casebook plays.

MTD, Sr.

[Daryl H. Long]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

The intent the rule forbidding a player from removing his jersey was to prevent basketball players copying soccer players and their stupid habit of removing their jerseys to protest the officiating or celebrating a score. Instead the Rules Committee, said that if A1 had to use A15's jersey because maybe A1's jersey became torn, A1 and A15 and to go to locker room to make the switch and if they made the exchange at courtside, it was a TF for each player who removed his shirt. Once again the brainless twits were writing the rules and casebook plays.

MTD, Sr.

No, they were not brainless twits. The need for the rule arose rather quickly and before it got out of hand the rules committee addressed it.

The unfortunate thing is the penalty is applied uniformly across the board. That took away our discretion as officials to decide whether a player committed an unsporstmanlike act or not.

By rule, the 2 players should each be assessed a T.

But to be honest, I can not say I would do it. There is clearly nothing so egregious that what they did should receive the same penalty as the player who does so in anger. Prevent it from happening.