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JugglingReferee Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:08pm
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Originally Posted by BktBallRef
In the OP, there was a [made] FT.
Yes, and then B takes the ball OOB...

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If you call the intentional foul, there are FTs.
Yes...

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef
He did not explain which situation he was asking about.
He wants to know if A is permitted to run the endline during the throw-in following the 2 fouls shots. It's a great question, given that A could run the endline before the foul.

BktBallRef Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:15pm
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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee
He wants to know if A is permitted to run the endline during the throw-in following the 2 fouls shots. It's a great question, given that A could run the endline before the foul.
If you believed that, you would have already answered him instead of trying to convince yourself and me. :D

Gimlet25id Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:23pm
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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee
He wants to know if A is permitted to run the endline during the throw-in following the 2 fouls shots. It's a great question, given that A could run the endline before the foul.

No the player can't run after the FT's for the Intentional foul. Two shots "spot" throw-in nearest spot of the foul.

BktBallRef Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:30pm
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Originally Posted by Gimlet25id
No the player can't run after the FT's for the Intentional foul. Two shots "spot" throw-in nearest spot of the foul.
Thanks Gimlet. That's been bugging Jughead the entire thread. :p

JugglingReferee Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:55pm
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Originally Posted by Gimlet25id
No the player can't run after the FT's for the Intentional foul. Two shots "spot" throw-in nearest spot of the foul.
Good to know! I never knew that! :p

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Thanks Gimlet. That's been bugging Jughead the entire thread. :p
What bugs me is I never got any royalties from....

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BktBallRef Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:57pm
You should sue. http://www.runemasterstudios.com/gra...mages/evil.gif

Nevadaref Thu Jan 24, 2008 04:50am
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Originally Posted by Gimlet25id
No the player can't run after the FT's for the Intentional foul. Two shots "spot" throw-in nearest spot of the foul.
Correct. That was a rule change in the 2004-05 season when the word "common" was added to 7-5-7.
Here is the current case book play:

7.5.7 SITUATION D: Team A scores a field goal. B1 picks up the ball and steps out of bounds at the end line to prepare for a throw-in. Before the throw-in is completed, A2 is called for an intentional (or flagrant) foul on B3 near the end line. RULING: B3 would shoot the two free throws for the intentional (or flagrant) foul with the lane cleared. Team B will then have a designated spot throw-in on the end line. (7-5-4b)

secondregionbug Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:26am
The rule was changed to allow the baseline to still be run, this I cannot find if it applies to a intentional foul?

Scrapper1 Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:28am
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Originally Posted by secondregionbug
The rule was changed to allow the baseline to still be run, this I cannot find if it applies to a intentional foul?
Bug, re-read Nevadaref's post directly before yours. He answers your question directly. The team retains the right to run the endline only after a violation or COMMON foul.

bgtg19 Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:45pm
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Originally Posted by BktBallRef
Hit the ball, it's a T.

Foul the thrower, it's an intentional personal foul.
I don't have a rule book with me, but I thought that the proper call was "intentional foul" if an opponent contacts the thrower out of bounds. I write for clarification just because someone might read "foul the thrower" and apply common foul judgment (e.g., yeah, he contacted him out of bounds, but the contact wasn't signficant enough to call...). It is my understanding that ANY contact with the ball while in possession of the thrower is a T (as you indicated) and ANY contact with the thrower is an intentional foul. Perhaps someone with a book could clarify.


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