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Jurassic Referee Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:38am

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Originally Posted by Dan_ref
...or maybe his partner had the foul, looked at him and asked "did it go in?"

Not very good when the only possible response is "did what go in?"

Coulda said "I don't know but all the shoelaces were tied."

Scrapper1 Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:49am

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
You can't watch everything. It's a matter of priorities imo.

Yup. And after 5 pages of discussion and my personal experience last night, I'm convinced more than ever that my response in post #4 of this thread is exactly correct.

Nevadaref Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:50am

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Originally Posted by Scrapper1
Yup. And after 5 pages of discussion and my personal experience last night, I'm convinced more than ever that my response in post #4 of this thread is exactly correct.

Nah, you're just slow. You didn't switch to the ball fast enough after observing the players. ;)

Dan_ref Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:05am

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref
Nah, you're just slow. You didn't switch to the ball fast enough after observing the players. ;)

Oh.

You mean he had his priority reversed.

Good point.

Camron Rust Fri Jan 25, 2008 01:57pm

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Originally Posted by Scrapper1
Yup. And after 5 pages of discussion and my personal experience last night, I'm convinced more than ever that my response in post #4 of this thread is exactly correct.

Nobody said watch only the players...just watch them mostly and glance at the ball at the points where an issue might occur. There will be no BI/GT if no players jump up near the rim. If you're watching the players for rebounding, yoiu'll know when they jump and from where they jump....and thats about all you need to know if a contact with the ball is GT. Time the flight of the ball and look up when it gets to the rim to see it go in or bounce up high enough to matter. If neither, return to players.

Scrapper1 Fri Jan 25, 2008 02:12pm

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust
Nobody said watch only the players...just watch them mostly and glance at the ball at the points where an issue might occur.

How about just watch the ball, since that's your primary coverage and trust your partner to watch the players, since that's his/her primary coverage?

Last night has convinced me that anybody who says otherwise is simply overthinking. The title of the thread is "where is your focus?" The trail's focus is the flight of the ball. The lead's focus is the rebounding players.

Rich Fri Jan 25, 2008 02:34pm

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust
Nobody said watch only the players...just watch them mostly and glance at the ball at the points where an issue might occur. There will be no BI/GT if no players jump up near the rim. If you're watching the players for rebounding, yoiu'll know when they jump and from where they jump....and thats about all you need to know if a contact with the ball is GT. Time the flight of the ball and look up when it gets to the rim to see it go in or bounce up high enough to matter. If neither, return to players.


Ding, ding. This is the winner. There's no reason to watch the full flight of the ball. I've studied parabolas, so I know how the ball will fly.

Besides, if I'm watching the flight of the ball all the way, who's taking the shooter all the way to the ground?

So watch the shooter, look at the rebounding, and get the money shots on the ball -- BI/GT, supports, then rebounding action again.

Dan_ref Fri Jan 25, 2008 02:38pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN
Besides, if I'm watching the flight of the ball all the way, who's taking the shooter all the way to the ground?

You are, if he's in your primary.

1. shooter
2. ball
3. rebounding off the miss

Go back & read the rest of the thread

Jurassic Referee Fri Jan 25, 2008 02:39pm

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Originally Posted by Scrapper1
How about just watch the ball, since that's your primary coverage and trust your partner to watch the players, since that's his/her primary coverage?

Last night has convinced me that anybody who says otherwise is simply overthinking. The title of the thread is "where is your focus?" The trail's focus is the flight of the ball. The lead's focus is the rebounding players.

Ding, ding. This is the winner.:D

Dan_ref Fri Jan 25, 2008 02:46pm

How come I'm never the winner in these things...?

http://www.poster.net/kimberlin-keit...py-5001238.jpg

Rich Fri Jan 25, 2008 02:47pm

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Originally Posted by Dan_ref
You are, if he's in your primary.

1. shooter
2. ball
3. rebounding off the miss

Go back & read the rest of the thread

I've read it all, much as I can stand. It's simply boring me to read the same things over and over again.

You folks sit and watch the ball flutter towards the hoop and I'll simply work the way I always have.

Dan_ref Fri Jan 25, 2008 02:48pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN
I've read it all, much as I can stand. It's simply boring me to read the same things over and over again.

You folks sit and watch the ball flutter towards the hoop and I'll simply work the way I always have.

Works for me.

Scrapper1 Fri Jan 25, 2008 02:59pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN
I've read it all, much as I can stand. It's simply boring me to read the same things over and over again.

I agree, Rich.

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You folks sit and <s>watch the ball flutter towards the hoop</s> ignore whether the ball is touched or goes out of bounds and I'll simply work the way I always have.
;)

blindzebra Fri Jan 25, 2008 03:03pm

The simple truth is that had anyone other than Nevada said rebounding was the priority this would have died at a page or two.

Gee the standard training says shot goes up trail steps down to see rebounding action...hmmmm, seems deeper opens up ball action better...doesn't say shot goes up move to better see the shot, now does it?

Dan_ref Fri Jan 25, 2008 03:08pm

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Originally Posted by blindzebra
The simple truth is that had anyone other than Nevada said rebounding was the priority this would have died at a page or two.

Yeah, the Grand Clique Theorem. We all hate Nevada...except maybe the clintons.


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