Turned down the opportunity to call "Delay Return to the Court" T yesterday.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I would and did. The kid did something deemed to be deceitful. That's called cheating.

It's a violation, nothing more. Please cite rule referring to cheater.

Why don't you drag him to the town square and brand him with a scarlet 'C'?

Sorry, you're a little pompous on this one.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by fullor30

It's a violation, nothing more. Please cite rule referring to cheater.

Why don't you drag him to the town square and brand him with a scarlet 'C'?

Sorry, you're a little pompous on this one.

First, it's not a violation. It's a technical foul.
Secondly, the reason that this is the penalty is that the NFHS deems this to be "unfair, unethical, [or] dishonorable conduct" and thus warranting an unsporting technical foul per rule 4-19-14. If that's not tantamount to cheating, I don't know what is.

I guess you agree with little deecee who thinks that he knows better than the experienced NFHS committee. If you want to call someone pompous, I suggest that you look in his direction. Unfortunately, he doesn't have the intestinal fortitude to make the correct call in this situation.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

First, it's not a violation. It's a technical foul.
Secondly, the reason that this is the penalty is that the NFHS deems this to be "unfair, unethical, [or] dishonorable conduct" and thus warranting an unsporting technical foul per rule 4-19-14. If that's not tantamount to cheating, I don't know what is.

I guess you agree with little deecee who thinks that he knows better than the experienced NFHS committee. If you want to call someone pompous, I suggest that you look in his direction. Unfortunately, he doesn't have the intestinal fortitude to make the correct call in this situation.

Late night post, meant to say technical foul. We're dealing in semantics and your's are over the top.

Believe as you wish.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Experienced NFHS committee.

Is this the same "experienced committee" that changed the rule a few years ago to now allow coaches to call, OK, I really mean request, time outs during situations when the attention of all two, or three, officials need to be on the ten players, like during a trap, just previous to a held ball, just before an official is about to call traveling, a foul, out of bounds, a five second count, a ten second count, etc.

I this the same "experienced committee" that failed to proofread the rule book a several years ago, and "accidently" left out the lineup request when several substitues enter at the same time, and had to put it back in the rule book a few years ago.

I would like to know who is on this "experienced committee", officials, coaches, athletic directors, interpreters from various officials organizations, boards, or associations?

[deecee]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Is this the same "experienced committee" that changed the rule a few years ago to now allow coaches to call, OK, I really mean request, time outs during situations when the attention of all two, or three, officials need to be on the ten players, like during a trap, just previous to a held ball, just before an official is about to call traveling, a foul, out of bounds, a five second count, a ten second count, etc.

I this the same "experienced committee" that failed to proofread the rule book a several years ago, and "accidently" left out the lineup request when several substitues enter at the same time, and had to put it back in the rule book a few years ago.

I would like to know who is on this "experienced committee", officials, coaches, athletic directors, interpreters from various officials organizations, boards, or associations?

Nevada doesn't question he just does.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Is this the same "experienced committee" that changed the rule a few years ago to now allow coaches to call, OK, I really mean request, time outs during situations when the attention of all two, or three, officials need to be on the ten players, like during a trap, just previous to a held ball, just before an official is about to call traveling, a foul, out of bounds, a five second count, a ten second count, etc.

I this the same "experienced committee" that failed to proofread the rule book a several years ago, and "accidently" left out the lineup request when several substitues enter at the same time, and had to put it back in the rule book a few years ago.

I would like to know who is on this "experienced committee", officials, coaches, athletic directors, interpreters from various officials organizations, boards, or associations?

While they are human and make mistakes just as anyone else does, the fact remains that each and every member of that committee has more experience with HS basketball than young deecee does.

While I don't like it that coaches can request a time-out during play, I do and will continue to correctly apply that rule until the NFHS committee sees fit to change it. On the other hand the attitude of deecee is that when he doesn't like a rule, he just won't apply it. Can you imagine him having this conversation with a coach?

Coach: Didn't you hear me asking for a time-out.
deecee: Yes, but I didn't give it to you.
Coach: Why not?
deecee: Because it is a bad rule and I don't like it, so I'm not going to follow it in my games.

What treat he must be on the court.